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Topic: A Walt Disney Christmas
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Tom Photiou
Film God
Posts: 4837
From: Plymouth U.K
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted December 11, 2018 02:30 PM
Dec 2018 review update. I guess anyone who is looking at this will simply be reminded that they probably have a print of this film, one of the most common Disney reels in any collectors stock, especially if, like me, you have had Children or Grandchildren to show Christmas films to. I dont need to go into the content too much due to the fact of how many of these are out there and it is already within this thread. There are a few on ebay at present including my own. No, not this particular print, but the one we have had for around 25 years plus. This print was on ebay last week and i was taken back by the images, the colours were so vivid, so i popped a bid in with a view to a high point, i added a couple of quid and it was a good job i did as i would have lost it. Our own is showing signs of fade as many seem to be now, particularly in the darker sections during Toy tinkers and Pluto's xmas tree, a slight red hue in just a few places, aside this it isn't too bad,(or so i thought). This new copy arrived today, a very fast delivery service from the ebay seller,willhay, and holy cow, was i happy with this. The box looks like it's just been opened from the wrapper. There isn't a mark or crease on it anywhere, i gave it a very quick check as always, popped it on and the following images will tell you everything. 100% fantastic, we are very much over the moon with this one. Great colours, no fade what so ever, pin sharp image and 1st class sound, no splices or any problems at all. The seller mentioned a very light line to the right and as this replaces our slightly fading copy this is like a brand spanking new film. I assume this is on agfa stock or is an LPP reprint, either way there is absolutely no fade on this print and, in my view, it is one of the best Christmas films on super 8. Perfect for any audience, not too long and a great variety of shorts on one reel.
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Osi Osgood
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted December 12, 2018 12:10 PM
Yep, the Fuju or Agfa prints of this in the U.K. (I have an Agfa of the U.K. printing myself), have excellent colors. The only difference between the two is that, from what I have heard from other collectors, the Agfa, for some odd reason, is the just the slightest bit soft in focus, where the fuji print is pin sharp.
I don't know if this is because of the use of different stocks, however.
-------------------- "All these moments will be lost in time, just like ... tears, in the rain. "
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Tom Photiou
Film God
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From: Plymouth U.K
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted December 13, 2018 03:03 PM
Thank you chaps. Kevin, i would not want a bidding war with you, I've got more 16mm's to buy yet Yes this was a very lucky find for me, i wasn't looking for it, i simply stumbled on it as a "similar items you may like". We first bought a print of this when my Brother had his Son goodness knows how many years ago now. Last year it showed some red hue in places so i was so pleased to find this one. It is one of the best Xmas films around and the content is excellent for any audience both young and old. I used it every year at my Children's Badgers & St Johns Christmas film shows that i did for around 10 years running. Great days they were too. Now this new, and better copy will take pride of place and will continue to be viewed every year, the box took me by surprise, it really is like it has just come out of the wrapper off the shelf. Not a mark or crease on it anywhere. I will also keep my eyes out for an LPP or Agfa print for Bill. By the way, i checked my print tonight and the original leader on it states Bucks Laboratories, Slough. Still not sure what the stock is though
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Osi Osgood
Film God
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted December 14, 2018 11:25 AM
Bill's right about that. nearly all prints stateside was on eastman film stock, and not the beloved l.P.P. Some have held up OK, but most, uh uh!
Those "Movie Milestones" releases, three of them ...
The Band Concert The Old Mill
depending on how they were stored, have held up Ok, but strangely, the third one, "The Ugly Duckling" has tended to more faded than the other two.
Just a thought ...
I've always wished that Disney had plunged into the scope releases with they're "Black Hole" 400ft digest! I have a very nice Fuji print of this, but I have always wished that it was scope.
-------------------- "All these moments will be lost in time, just like ... tears, in the rain. "
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