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Den Brown
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- posted February 18, 2010 09:14 AM      Profile for Den Brown     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
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Hello,

I am looking for thick, stiff, brown card boxes for 400ft 16mm reels.

This is a rigid, one piece cardboard box. It does not have a separate lid.

Please see attached images.

Are these still made? If so, where can they be purchased?

Or does anyone have any spare they wish to offload?

Thanks.
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[ February 18, 2010, 11:38 AM: Message edited by: Den Brown ]

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Joerg Polzfusz
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- posted February 18, 2010 11:03 AM      Profile for Joerg Polzfusz   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi,

Wittner is still selling "35mm - Kartonagen":
http://wittner-cinetec.com/katalog/01_archi/d_karton.php
However it doesn't look like they do have similar boxes for 16mm...

But if you're willing to order 500 boxes at once, you should visit Tayloreel's webpage:
http://www.tayloreel.com/micro.html

Jörg
P.S.: Maybe you can simply use one of those paperboard containers for CDs, DVDs, LPs, wine-bottles, folders, ... as sold in post-offices and stationery shops? E.g. something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Record-Cardboard-Multi-Depth-Mailers-12BC01VD/dp/B001J595HY
or these:
http://www.squaredealonline.com/browse.asp?v=117

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John Davis
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- posted February 18, 2010 01:01 PM      Profile for John Davis     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Den,
slightly leftfield but you could try ordering pizza boxes like these

http://www.bagnboxman.co.uk/acatalog/pizza-boxes-foodsafe.html

given they are typically 40mm deep, they would hold two reels.

A friend of mine who made novelty clocks sent them in these sort of boxes so they are quite robust (and inexpensive)

John

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Yanis Tzortzis
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- posted February 23, 2010 05:17 AM      Profile for Yanis Tzortzis   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Many thanks for your advice guys,I've been looking for card boxes for ages;gone are the days that 8mm 600 &800 boxes were around... [Frown]

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Adrian Winchester
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- posted February 25, 2010 06:45 PM      Profile for Adrian Winchester     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Den,
Your scans look just like the ones from a batch of boxes that were made at the request of Elizabethan Film Services a few years ago, and sold by them. I ordered stacks of their 1600' and 2000' boxes but they also had 400' ones made. I don't know if they have any left. I think this is probably their number but let me know if I'm wrong: 01204 521910

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Den Brown
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- posted February 26, 2010 10:46 AM      Profile for Den Brown     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
E.F.S. used to sell lots of them but not any more.

Thanks.

PS: I have loads of old films in boxes like this. I am surprised they were made at special request. I assumed it was a generic film box.

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Joerg Polzfusz
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- posted February 26, 2010 12:19 PM      Profile for Joerg Polzfusz   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
I assumed it was a generic film box.
It is a generic film box. And it is still produced (with slightly different colours) and sold by Tayloreel (s. link in my previous answer). The only problem is that Tayloreel only sells cartons that contain 500 of theses boxes. And it sounds like you only need ten (or even less) of these boxes.

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Adrian Winchester
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- posted February 26, 2010 12:54 PM      Profile for Adrian Winchester     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The EFS stock was definitely a special order, but maybe they were ordering boxes that the manufacturer had previously made in relation to other orders. Unfortunately, whenever I've heard of new cardboard 16mm boxes being available in the UK, it has always been a dealer needing to order far more than any individual collector would want.

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Den Brown
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- posted February 27, 2010 02:43 PM      Profile for Den Brown     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Tayloreel sell chipboard boxes, not the same as those I seek. They call the material chipboard, we'd just call it card. The ones they stock are widely available.

http://www.momentcatcherproductions.com/page6.html#16reelstorage

I am looking for cardboard (or corrugated card), it is much more rigid - and brown.

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Yanis Tzortzis
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- posted February 28, 2010 08:14 AM      Profile for Yanis Tzortzis   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
......getting back to my previous post, any sources you might know for 8mm boxes-either 600' or 800'? Or am I asking for too much?

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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- posted February 28, 2010 10:12 AM      Profile for Gian Luca Mario Loncrini   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yanis, are you referring to simple white cardboard boxes?

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Yanis Tzortzis
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- posted March 01, 2010 02:45 PM      Profile for Yanis Tzortzis   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yes Gian Luca, the ones that DERANN used to sell not so long ago;it's been awhile that those,especially the nice 800' ones stopped being produced;since then I'm trying to find alternatives for storing 800' films in a weight-and-space saving way;like two in a plastic 16mm can.....

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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- posted March 01, 2010 04:12 PM      Profile for Gian Luca Mario Loncrini   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I got it. Thought they were still available.
I don't have any 800' (I suppose you'd use for 16mm), but let me know if you need some 600' (for free, of course).
Ciao.

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Yanis Tzortzis
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- posted March 02, 2010 07:36 PM      Profile for Yanis Tzortzis   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Grazie Gian Luca, [Smile]
right now I don't think I need any,but good to know there are some around; obviously asking further for too much now,but would you happen to have any of those big 600' cardboxes that DERRANN used to sell, & could take 4x600 reels? Don't know if there are still any left....

ciao per ora,

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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- posted March 03, 2010 06:23 AM      Profile for Gian Luca Mario Loncrini   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
About 4*600... not in perfect condition, but I should still have some, Yanis.
Prego, per ora [Wink] .

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Yanis Tzortzis
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Gain Luca, that'd be...magnifico! If it's not a problem, can you bring 2 or 3 to Ealing if you remember?

Grazie tanti! [Smile]

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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- posted March 06, 2010 07:10 AM      Profile for Gian Luca Mario Loncrini   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I will for sure.
Just remind me about them one or two days before, please. In case write me a PM:
gloncri (at) hotmail.it

Ciao [Wink] .

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Yanis Tzortzis
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- posted March 07, 2010 08:06 AM      Profile for Yanis Tzortzis   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Grazie Gl, will do

a piu tardi [Smile]

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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- posted March 07, 2010 04:39 PM      Profile for Gian Luca Mario Loncrini   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
More than welcome, Yanis. A presto.
GIAN

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