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Terry Sills
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posted August 24, 2015 06:43 AM

I have just listed this. I know it's not cheap but the condition and accessories included reflect this. Would love to hear your comments - positive and negative.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pathe-Baby-Stunning-/331635973025?hash=item4d370b5ba1

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Paul Mason
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posted August 27, 2015 07:44 AM

Hi Terry,
That's certainly the best looking Pathe Baby outfit I have seen. Way outside my budget though [Frown]

. It might be better to list the items included for the uninitiated like myself. For instance why is there a long cone attached to the projector lens?

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Dominique De Bast
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posted August 27, 2015 09:21 AM

As far as I know, but I don't own such an accessory myself, the long cone gives you a larger picture. It is called "amplificateur" in French and is put in addition of the existing lens. I have no idea as how efficient it is.

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Paul Mason
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posted August 27, 2015 10:18 AM

Hi Dominique,
Thanks for your answer. An "amplificateur" would translate as "amplifier" or "enlarger" which is interesting. I suppose it is a converter lens like those made by Eiki, Elmo and Bell & Howell for 16mm machines to reduce the focal length of the lens.

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Terry Sills
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posted August 27, 2015 10:37 AM

Yes Dom is right. It is an early version of an enlarging lens. I don't think it is that efficient but they are fairly rare, especially in good condition. Perhaps it would be a good idea to list the accessories.

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Maurice Leakey
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posted August 29, 2015 05:20 AM

I am indebted to Gerald McKee's "Classic Home Movie Projectors 1922-1940" for the information below.
THE AMPLIFIER
The picture magnifier (actually a concave "negative" lens) consisted of a 60mm diameter simple lens mounted at the end of a funnel shaped cone. This tube fitted via its nickel-plated attachment ring to the dummy Pathe Baby lens mount. The result was a 50% increase in picture size for a given throw. As with all such optical attachments there was a price to pay: a less bright picture and a certain amount of distortion of the enlarged image.

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Dominique De Bast
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posted August 29, 2015 05:36 AM

A "less bright picture" ! That's probably why Pathé Baby made a pair of magnificient glasses (like theatrical ones) :-) I guess if these have been often used as it is not very good for the eyes.

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Terry Sills
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posted August 29, 2015 01:20 PM

Maurice
Great bit of research again.
Dom
You're right. The picture was never that bright to start with, but don't forget this 1920's technology. Not state of the art - more like state of the Ark. [Big Grin]

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Dominique De Bast
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posted August 29, 2015 01:56 PM

Terry, the Pathé Baby is a wonderful machine : the notches system is ingenious (not to mention the 9.5 gaguge itself with its central perforation) and the beautiful design of the projector makes it appealing to use. The brightness is not what you're looking for when manipulating this little Wonder.

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Terry Sills
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posted August 29, 2015 02:26 PM

You are so right. It was real cutting edge in its day and I still prefer 9.5 over 8mm to this day. Picture quality as good as 16mm and good sound quality too. I'm beginning to wonder why I'm selling this one.

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Terry Sills
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posted September 20, 2015 11:19 AM

Relisted with a bit more info on the accessories
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331660062050?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2648

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