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Alan Rik
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posted January 01, 2004 05:20 PM

I was cruising Ebay Germany and I saw this:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3068724449&category=8271

I thought I had seen all the Elmo's before. Does anyone know what a P Com model is, and what is all that extra gadgetry near the bottom?

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Kevin Faulkner
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posted January 01, 2004 08:24 PM

Hi Alan,
I have never set eyes on one of these machines but as far as I know it brings the GS into the computer controlled age. Every thing is the same as the std GS except that the ESS sync system can be controlled down to the very exact frame with great acuracy. Elmo even did away with the std meters and included leds to give you your recording levels. I think the machine can also do all sorts of fade ins and outs by using built in programs. It even gives a digital readout of the exact frame numbers etc. Quite a machine if you can find one. I dont think that too many were sold as the price was very high. I have never seen one here in the UK but I do know a guy in Germany who has one.
All I can say Alan, is dream on!!!!
[Smile]

Kev

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Alan Rik
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posted January 02, 2004 12:58 AM

wow! that sounds like quite a machine. Then again for some reason, you and I know how finicky a regular GS can be so I can't imagine trying to find someone to fix one of those if you had a problem!
I think I'll stick with the mechanical GS's!

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Kevin Faulkner
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posted January 02, 2004 05:54 AM

I agree with you on that one Alan. It's bad enough finding replacement ic's and transistors for a std GS so just imagine tring to find substitutes for the Pcom. [Frown]

Kev.

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Paul Adsett
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posted January 02, 2004 11:26 AM

What an amazing looking machine-I had no idea that this version of the GS1200 existed! I wonder how much one of these would sell for on EBay! You learn something new everyday on this forum! I must say I like the side mounted control panel for the recording features. This is one of the virtues of the Eumig S926, 938, and 940 series of projectors. I much prefer to re-record feature films using my Eumig S938 rather than my GS1200-it seems so much easier on the Eumig with the side mounted recording/playback console.

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Alan Rik
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posted January 02, 2004 12:02 PM

Paul,
I had a chance to pick up one of those Eumigs. Let me ask you, when you are re-recording your features, how are you keeping sync? Are you doing "wild" synch?

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Kevin Faulkner
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posted January 02, 2004 04:58 PM

Paul, I too wondered how you are keeping sync using your Eumig?
Do those later Eumigs have a sync system built into them like the GS? As you may have guessed I'm not too up on the Eumig machines.

Kev.

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Paul Adsett
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posted January 02, 2004 08:15 PM

Unfortunately the Eumigs do not have pulse-sync capability, as in the Elmo GS1200, so I have to utilize the "Wild-Sync" method. However, this is not as difficult as it sounds, because the Eumig 900 series projectors run at a very constant speed from a synchronous AC motor, and (unlike the 800 series) have a very precise and smooth mechanical speed adjustment. Once warmed up, the 900 series projectors will run a whole 400ft reel in sync, with only very minor speed adjustment being required. Plus the sound recording quality of the 900's is really superb. I have re-recorded many full length features in stereo with the 938, from DVD and VHS, always with great results which really enhance the impact of the film. Takes practice and patience, but well worth the effort.

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The best of all worlds- 8mm, super 8mm, 9.5mm, and HD Digital Projection,
Elmo GS1200 f1.0 2-blade
Eumig S938 Stereo f1.0 Ektar
Panasonic PT-AE4000U digital pj

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Kevin Faulkner
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posted January 03, 2004 02:06 PM

Well done Paul and probably cheaper than buying a GS1200. Yes I suppose that a synchronous AC motor on a well adjusted machine would retain sync quite well. The TV and the motor would of course be locked to mains frequency. Nice one. [Smile]

Kev.

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Mike Peckham
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posted January 03, 2004 04:12 PM

Hello

This probably won't add much to what has already been said but i found the following mention of the P-com in an article about the 1982 Photokina Exhibition in Movie Maker Magazine;

"Conspicuous on the Elmo stand was the latest version of the GS 1200, known as the P-COM. This looks like the regular GS 1200 but with added micro processor panel to control recording. The idea is to link up with two seperate tape recordings on which you have recorded some of the sound. The projector has digital frame counting with a memory system that allows up to three start-stop positions on each of the tapes, either alternately or together, with coming in to record and going out again as required in exact to-the-frame positions on the film."

Mike

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