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Ugo Grassi
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 506
From: Avellino (Italy)
Registered: Dec 2003


 - posted September 05, 2004 10:03 AM      Profile for Ugo Grassi   Email Ugo Grassi   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=8271&item=5717815799&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

955 euro for a spare parts machine? Without lens???
Incredible...

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Bye
Ugo

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Dan Lail
Film God

Posts: 2110
From: Loganville, Georgia, USA
Registered: Jun 2003


 - posted September 05, 2004 11:05 AM      Profile for Dan Lail   Author's Homepage   Email Dan Lail   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Incredible is right! 29 bids too! Maybe the bidders don't understand the German language. Looks like it was photographed in a strip joint. [Big Grin]

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Kevin Faulkner
Film God

Posts: 4071
From: Essex UK
Registered: Jun 2003


 - posted September 05, 2004 03:59 PM      Profile for Kevin Faulkner         Edit/Delete Post 
Yes I must say that I thought it looked in a bit of a sorry state especially with the loop former stuck in a position it shouldnt really be in.
Leave it a lone guys.

Kev.

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GS1200 Xenon with Elmo 1.0...great combo along with a 16-CL Xenon for that super bright white light.

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Heinz-Juergen Schachner
Film Handler

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From: Germany
Registered: Jun 2003


 - posted September 06, 2004 05:57 AM      Profile for Heinz-Juergen Schachner   Email Heinz-Juergen Schachner   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hello,

I am quite sure that the foreign bidders did not understand the German description properly. Otherwise such a high price can not be explained. And the highest bidder is from the UK ;-)

I did buy a tinkered ELMO GS-1200 a few weeks ago and I only paid a third. Luckily the one I bought is one of the latest machines with a GS-sign (geprüfte Sicherheit - checked safety) on the back.

Best Wishes

Heinz-Juergen Schachner
Germany

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Ugo Grassi
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 506
From: Avellino (Italy)
Registered: Dec 2003


 - posted September 06, 2004 06:28 AM      Profile for Ugo Grassi   Email Ugo Grassi   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Heinz,
this is not totally thrue. If you check the bidders you see the second offer is from a Germany guy (950 eu from him!)
In an italian forum there was a "match" (with blood!!) about the GS price.

I think when you bought from an "unknow" seller (also with a positive rating)a machine which appears in "A" condiction, the right price is 800/900 eu. But if you buy a tested GS, refurbished and "garanteed" from a famous guy (like Bavaria, or mr. Schachner, or Kevin), the price has to be highter, because you buy a machine without problems, which plays the films without leaves scratches on it, and with the claw and the heads in very good state.
I think the right price for a "ready to go" GS is 1200 eu.

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Ugo

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Kevin Faulkner
Film God

Posts: 4071
From: Essex UK
Registered: Jun 2003


 - posted September 06, 2004 04:54 PM      Profile for Kevin Faulkner         Edit/Delete Post 
Well thanks for that but dont forget Mr Ugo himslef as well. [Wink]

Kev [Smile]

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GS1200 Xenon with Elmo 1.0...great combo along with a 16-CL Xenon for that super bright white light.

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Heinz-Juergen Schachner
Film Handler

Posts: 86
From: Germany
Registered: Jun 2003


 - posted September 07, 2004 06:02 AM      Profile for Heinz-Juergen Schachner   Email Heinz-Juergen Schachner   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi,

Ugo you are completely correct on the second bidder being from Germany. Maybe this bidder is the seller, too ;-)

At the moment there are many, many pushers on Ebay. Some of them are so unfair, that they place a bid which is higher than mine and then cancel the bid a few minutes before the auction ends.

Best Wishes

Heinz-Juergen Schachner
Germany

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Rob Koeling
Master Film Handler

Posts: 399
From: Brighton, UK
Registered: Jun 2003


 - posted September 07, 2004 09:08 AM      Profile for Rob Koeling   Email Rob Koeling   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
[Mad] That's terrible. I've started using 'snipe' programs some time ago, in order not to get engaged in bidding wars. These programs place a bid for you a few seconds before the auction ends. You just have to be sure that you put the right bid in (because you won't get a second chance to bid).
I guess 'sniping' also helps to discourage the practice that you just described. Although, they might put in their bid anyway and then tell the second bidder that the highest bidder didn't get through (but at least there is no obligation to buy anymore).

- Rob

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