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Michael De Angelis
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1261
From: USA
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted October 28, 2004 11:00 PM
It's good to view this topic objectively.
Cancer is a serious topic, and it's good to keep a light hearted mindset to break the tedium in serious topics, but not to dismiss the serious implications which can result in chemical misuse.
1,1,1 Triclorethane was a chemical which has been banned here in the USA, and it was the main ingredient in Kodak Film Cleaner for many years.
Another Fast drying Chemical sold here was a product put out by the late Marty Bahn here in the USA, and it was called: Film Miracle, and distributed by Ashland Chemical, INC. in the USA.
The generic ID for this product is a Chlorinated Hydrocarbon. To use this properly requires special gloves made for this product.
This product, and similar products of this kind has been considered toxic.
I am sure some people have used it, and can speak of it today.
The Film Renew is a Stoddard Solvent, which is similar to mineral spirits.
This does not indicate that hobbyists should begin using paint thinner to clean their films? Quite the contrary, because the chemistry in Film Renew is proven to maintain film, and we do not know how mineral spirits will effect film in the long run. We also do not know how the chemical in combination with the film may affect our health.
I am not down playing the toxicity of Film Renew, I'm just stating what I was told.
Our chemistry in each individual is the same, but our tolerance to chemicals may differ, and we must think about providing ourselves with protection. This includes adequate ventilation with a fan to exhaust the fumes away or out of the room, with a good supply of fresh air into the room. Minimal exposure will ensure the best health conditions as well.
Lab Safety Supply is a company that sells Industrial safety supplies here in the USA. However I am sure that you can purchase the proper gloves at any local hardware store, and garden shop which specializes in plant chemicals in your area. I believe it is a green neoprene glove that you will need to use along with the Film Renew.
As Brad mentioned earlier, check out the products in your home, shed and garage and look to see what needs to be tossed out properly in accord with your community disposal codes. Also to understand how to interpret a MSDS is worth while in understanding. I am sure their are chemists and technicians that work at the safety houses which will be glad to assist anyone in purchasing the proper gloves along with a small explanation to the MSDS.
Now what is in that Film Guard, that we should all know about?
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I will try to locate an interesting article which I had read about film and plastics, which was written for Discover Magazine at another time.
Enjoy the hobby, and be safe.
Best,
Michael
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Michael De Angelis
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1261
From: USA
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted October 29, 2004 11:05 PM
I have not tried Film Guard on Mag stripe films, but I have used Film Renew.
A friend of mine sold me some film with Film Guard on it, and so far I have not noticed the stripe sliding off of the film. I will say, that the film purrs very quietly with film guard on it. I also noticed that tape splices seem to appear somewhat milky in appearance with Film Guard on it.
I have used Film Renew, and have applied it to the sprocket side of the film, and have painted a small amount onto the base and emulsion surfaces for about an inch, wraped a Kleenex Tissue ( generally the Kleenex will not shred) and wipe the film alternating the pad between a pair of hand rewinds. On the return to the original reel, I will use a velvet polish fabric cloth and pass the cloth through the film using the rewinds again. This will remove any dust from the film. Make sure not to apply alot of pressure during the wiping. After that, I will wind the film both ways until the film is dry and it's important to wind loosly, so the cleaner will dry on the film properly.
I always believe that a wet wound film may lead to spotting, warping and curl.
Film Renew is a slow drying cleaner, and Film Guard is even slower that Film Renew.
After projecting the film, it's best to rewind fairly tightly to prevent curl and warp.
Ecco made a fast drying cleaner specially made for mag stripe film, but I did not like how it worked, and did not care for how I felt after using it.
Most importantly, use protective gloves and adequate ventilation.
Dispose of all tissues when done in a plastic bag.
It's good to clean the velvet polishing cloth. This is done by wiping some Film Renew on the cloth with a tissue.
At this point, you would be able to clean the film with the properties of Film Renew when it's on the surface of the cloth. Not saturated but just that the fibers are touched up with the cleaner from the wiping of the tissue.
Washing of the Velvet Cloth is good to do also.- Use Gloves!
Best,
Mike
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Paul Adsett
Film God
Posts: 5003
From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted October 30, 2004 04:27 PM
I am currently using the ArmorAll Lint-Free Protectant Wipes. In the USA they are packaged in a yellow cylindrical box, and you pull the wipes out of a hole in the cover, one at a time. The cloth is lintless, and is already pre-moistoned with the Armorall when it is pulled out of the box, so there is no mess, and the application of the fluid is fairly consistent. I have not tried any of the other Armorall products, which are similarly packaged. The stuff is really intended to put a shine on automobile plastics and vinyl interiors, and to protect against UV degradation of these materials. The box warns against using this material on surfaces where slipperiness is a hazard, but of course this is just what want on our films! Since film is a plastic material I thought it might be worth trying it, and it definately seems to make old acetate prints more pliable and more slippery, and quieter runnning through the projector after 2 or 3 applications. I can't compare the effectiveness of Armor All versus film cleaners, because I refuse to use film cleaners- just not prepared to take the health risks. I would be interested to hear if anyone else has tried ArmorAll wipes on a test reel of film.
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