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Ronnie Coeuhant
Film Handler
Posts: 51
From: San Jose, CA USA
Registered: Jan 2004
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posted December 04, 2004 11:47 AM
I personally do not think the HTI sold for 1750 Euros is the market price for the projector. Just like yourself, if we were as quick in seeing the sale posted, we would have snapped it. I bet if you post that to eBay, the selling price will end up much higher. Just recently, GS-1200 Xenons sold for $2,750, $3,068, $2,200, and $2,300. HTI's should be much higher.
With that said, I'm sure if Ugo price them for 1750 Euros, he will be very busy.
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Ugo Grassi
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 506
From: Avellino (Italy)
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted December 05, 2004 03:30 AM
Thank you for your opinions, friends! About the GS HTI from Rinser: I saw that machine, I have the photo of it. It's similar to the machine that was on ebay few days ago. I suppose it comes from Jovanovic too!I think that conversion isn't made very well! Anyway: 1750 eu isn't enough to buy the hardware (projector, lamp, supply, igniter, hand made lamp holder, circuit for the fun)! and the price of the job? Yes Alain: I remove one of the internal speacker. But the other one is enough to ear the sound if you are running a film at home (if you say "I loose the stereo play" I answer "do you really think that two little and near internal speckers are able to give a stereo sound?). And don't forget the amplifier of the GS is able to drive the external speckers. [ December 05, 2004, 07:53 AM: Message edited by: Ugo Grassi ]
-------------------- Bye Ugo
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Alan Rik
Film God
Posts: 2211
From: New York City, NY, USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted December 05, 2004 08:44 AM
I do believe that you can get good stereo sound from the little speakers! Well not great but good. I think that is one of the main lures for the Xenon machine in that even though it is not as bright as the HTI it is an all in one contained unit. The transformer for the lamp and everything is contained in one simple package. The HTI needs its own ignition module, loss of one speaker, etc. Is there no way to do a conversion and keep both speakers intact? That would be great! In regards to the HTI information, the HTI Bulb is roughly 2x as bright as the Regular 250watt Xenon Bulb used in the Elmo GS1200 Xenon. This was the bulb used in the Beaulieu 708EL HTI Hi Power Projector. I believe it came out after the Elmo Xenon and is considered to be the more advanced and cutting edge light source. Conversions were originally being done for both the GS and the Beaulieu by Bavaria film in Germany. But then due to some legal/Safety issues Bavaria discontinued the conversion to the GS machines. Then roughly about a year ago they discontinued the work to the Beaulieu machines as well. Stating that the one person whom they had doing the work had moved on. (I think they meant "passed on") Now the only conversions being done to either machines are by independent parties like Ugo and Javonivic (?). Super bright picture but it puts out a lot of heat..thus the problem. I have never seen an HTI in action...waiting for Doug or Alan Gouger to take the plunge than I can go to their homes and see! You can buy all the parts yourself from Wittner to do the work. The lamp, Ballast, holder, etc. It will cost you over a thousand in parts, then you have to find a way to do it! Now wasn't that a wordy post? That should count for 3 posts!
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