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Greg Callander
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 - posted July 22, 2005 12:14 AM      Profile for Greg Callander   Email Greg Callander   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi troops.

Having recently retired and having a few 8mm films, I have decided to convert them to DVD myself.

I am currently looking at a Eumig MK S802. Are these machines any good or should I look at something else?

Looking forward to your comments.

Greg
Australia

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Tim Christian
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 - posted July 22, 2005 02:52 AM      Profile for Tim Christian   Author's Homepage   Email Tim Christian   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The 802 is a very nice machine. The R8/S8 changeover system is not as completely developed as that in the later projectors, such as the 810. Never change the gate components unless the dot on the inching knob is at the top.

If you are going to buy one (secondhand), check that the R8 sprockets are firmly in place when the S8 sprocket head is removed. Check that all three gate components are present. Check that the S8 sleeve for the feed spool arm is there. Gauge change components are stored in the lamp housing.

All projectors usually benefit from a thorough clean and relubricate. Clean the film paths with a good spray polish (Pleadge, Mr Sheen) sprayed onto a cloth or cotton buds as appropriate. Clean the sound heads using this polish on some Protectaprint. Relubricate nylon gears using the special grease supplied for video/dvd players. Drop thin oil onto metal bushes. These are usually sintered, and were self-lubricating twenty years ago!

I have an 802, and other Eumigs, so if there are any other queries just ask.

For film transfer, check out the Forum on Filmshooting

Hope this helps.

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Tim

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Greg Callander
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 - posted July 23, 2005 01:37 AM      Profile for Greg Callander   Email Greg Callander   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks for the information Tim. I have taken the info onboard.

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Greg Callander
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 - posted August 06, 2005 10:20 PM      Profile for Greg Callander   Email Greg Callander   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Tim.

What about the Eumig 8100. How does that machine handle the film?

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Tim Christian
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 - posted August 07, 2005 02:19 AM      Profile for Tim Christian   Author's Homepage   Email Tim Christian   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The 810 D is similar to the 802. Principal mechanical differences include an additional component for the replaceable gate and complete sprocket changes for S/R8 changeover.

The 802 has an integral film-end trimmer.

Sound facilities are a bit more elaborate.

Provided they are kept clean and well-maintained, both work well.

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Jan Bister
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 - posted August 07, 2005 08:36 AM      Profile for Jan Bister   Email Jan Bister   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Tim,

I just now noticed it myself - but he's asking about the 8100, eight-one-zero-zero, not the 810 D. [Wink]

(Wouldn't mind knowing about these 8100 and 9100(?) models, either!)

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Tim Christian
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Oh Yes! Must remember to wear my spectacles when browsing! [Cool]

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Adrian Winchester
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I currently have both a 802 and 810 (although I hope to sell both soon) and something puzzles me. Surely the 810 followed the 802? If so, I can't understand why the 802 has some worthwhile features (on/off switch, integral film trimmer and sideways tilt adjustment) that the 810 does not have. Any explanations for this?

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Paul Adsett
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Well I am puzzled too Adrian, because my S802 does NOT have the ON/OFF switch, or the sideways tilt adjustment, or the integral film trimmer.
My S820 Sonomatic also does NOT have the ON/OFF switch, but it DOES have the sideways tilt adjusting foot and the integral film trimmer.

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Tim Christian
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My S802D doesn't have a separate on/off switch either.

It does have the film trimmer (on the front just above the foot), and the tilt control. Both are detailed in the manual. Are these differences between the 802 and the 802D?

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Adrian Winchester
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This is mysterious! I've just got out my Mark S 802D, to make sure that I'm not imagining anything. In addition to the trimmer and tilt device, it certainly does have an on-off switch. It's a small lever-type switch with a black plastic bit on the end. It's positioned on the back end, just round the corner from the rotary switch. It's definitely an original feature and not customised.

Do we know that there's an 802 that's different to the 802D? I suppose the instruction book would make this clear but I've mislaid mine.

I must say that in some respects, my 802D looks more 'modern' than my 810, due to the black panels on the front and the plain black plastic knobs, although maybe all 802s had these. Perhaps Eumig were still making them after the 810 appeared and maybe the later 802s had the on-off switch added prior to this becoming a feature of the next generation of Eumigs?

Adrian

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Tim Christian
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Taking another look at my S 802D, there is a plastic blanking piece, just where you describe the on/off switch to be. On the diagram in the manual, item 17 is marked 'Mains switch (on special model)'. Perhaps the 'special model' was produced for the education or other market that required it and would justify a quantity special.

Neither the levelling control (tilt), item 31, nor the film trimmer, item 9, has any annotation.

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Tim

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