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Topic: EUMIG SUPROGON 1.1 lens
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Paul Adsett
Film God
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From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted December 02, 2005 01:15 PM
Hi Jan,
I got my fixed focus Kodak Ektar f1.0 lens off an old Kodak super 8 sound projector. This was Kodak's first super 8 sound projector (maybe an M100 or something like that) and it was based on their 16mm Pageant projector with robust all metal construction. It was a very nice professional quality machine with 2000ft spool capacity and built to the same kind of quality as the Elmo GS1200 and NOT to be confused with Kodaks later cheap plastic S8 projectors (Moviedecks, Ektasounds etc). But the sound was not up to Eumig and Elmo standards so I got rid of it, but I kept the superb lens. I have never seen a better lens anywhere than this one, and that includes the Elmo f1.0 zoom lens! It litearlly transforms the picture quality on my Eumigs, razor sharp corner to corner, and greatly enhanced contrast and screen brightness. These old Kodak machines are very very rare. I saw one a while ago on Phil Johnson's web site and he was asking $995.0 for it! Phil also mentioned that he had never seen a lens this good. Keep an eye open on ebay, one may eventually pop up, but make sure it has the Ektar f1.0 fixed focus lens. This lens has a very short back focal length so it almost sits on top of the film! This is no problem with the Eumig projectors where you can push the lens in very close to the film, but it is a problem on the Elmo GS1200 where you cannot get this lens pushed back far enough. I want to use this lens on my GS1200 since I am sure it will totally outperform the Elmo F1.0 zoom lens. To do this, I will have to modify the lens housing of the Elmo, something I am persuing.
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The best of all worlds- 8mm, super 8mm, 9.5mm, and HD Digital Projection,
Elmo GS1200 f1.0 2-blade
Eumig S938 Stereo f1.0 Ektar
Panasonic PT-AE4000U digital pj
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Paul Adsett
Film God
Posts: 5003
From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted December 26, 2005 04:52 PM
Well an old Kodak M100 has finally popped up on Ebay!
http://cgi.ebay.com/KODAK-M100-INSTAMATIC-SOUND-PROJECTOR_W0QQitemZ7574460696QQcategoryZ15253QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
This is the great Kodak all metal machine, based on the 16mm Pageant design, which has 2000 ft spool capacity, and that superb f1.0 fixed focal length Ektar lens I was talking about. This machine is built like a tank, and runs extremely smoothly and quiet. But the elctronics are a hybrid design, part solid transistorised and part valve output. The machine that I had many years ago threw the best super 8 picture I have ever seen, rock steady and sharp as a tack due to that superb f1.0 lens. But the sound quality was not up to the standard of the Eumigs and Elmos, pretty poor as a matter of fact. But that fixed focal length f1.0 lens is something else!
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The best of all worlds- 8mm, super 8mm, 9.5mm, and HD Digital Projection,
Elmo GS1200 f1.0 2-blade
Eumig S938 Stereo f1.0 Ektar
Panasonic PT-AE4000U digital pj
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Paul Adsett
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posted December 27, 2005 11:14 AM
Hi Jan,
Yes the Kodak M100 was certainly Kodak's top of the line super 8 projector, they never made a better one than this. Its like the GS1200 in build quality, weighs about 40 lbs, that tell's you a lot. This projector was produced when super 8 was first launched, and Kodak obviously wanted to make a great impression and display super 8 at its very best, and this projector succeeded in doing that. Besides its superb f1.0 fixed focal length lens it had a few other great features, such as auto-threading, very large top and bottom sprockets, the 2000ft spool capacity, Halogen lighting with a high and low brightness lamp setting, and a rotary switch which removed pressure from the sound heads during the running of silent films, thus saving a lot of head wear. It was invisioned that super 8 would be a semi professional format and this projector was almost identical to its equivalent 16mm model. Unfortunately, Kodak later reverted to cheap plastic projector which did no justice to S8 at all, and it was left to the European and Japanese designers to produce the top quality equipment.The M100 is a reminder that Kodak could produce great equipment when they wanted to, but like Bell & Howell, they abandoned their tradition of producing the very best equipment and decided to down market Super 8 to the K-Mart crowd.
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The best of all worlds- 8mm, super 8mm, 9.5mm, and HD Digital Projection,
Elmo GS1200 f1.0 2-blade
Eumig S938 Stereo f1.0 Ektar
Panasonic PT-AE4000U digital pj
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Paul, now I'm intrigued.![[Wink]](wink.gif)
but... what's the availability on those fixed lenses, in particular for Elmo projectors? Were any ever made? Is anyone else using any non-zoom lenses on their super-8 equipment?![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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