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Topic: Derann is asking...What would you like to see in 8mm?
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Paul Adsett
Film God
Posts: 5003
From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted June 03, 2006 01:22 PM
I would like to see Derann getting away from the modern CGI and animation stuff for their next release. I for one have had my bellyful of them right now. What we need is a pristine S8 print of a live action film from Hollywood's golden era. One with big stars, that has stood the test of time as highly repeatable entertainment. I would suggest one in color and CinemaScope and stereo, because we all like to show off what S8 can do. But please, no three hour epics! Many titles fill these requirements, westerns, dramas, musicals, you name it. But no comedies- comedy does not always work very well in different countries.
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Joe Caruso
Film God
Posts: 4105
From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted June 03, 2006 03:43 PM
Danke, Eberhard - To the other repliers, I once had a British print of Kennedy's I'LL BUILD IT MYSELF (about 350' or so), it was POWELL I think, if someone would shed light on this information, and as a long-term Edgar Kennedy colector, I'm appreciative - Also there were 200' editions of Kennedy and Leon Errol from MOUNTAIN, I would appreciate knowing all the titles released in this format as I have several and need to know if I'm up to snuff or, if I still need to take up the search - Obliged, Shorty
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Chip Gelmini
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1733
From: Brooksville, FL
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted June 03, 2006 07:30 PM
I agree with everyone, but I must agree with Jan on Baraka. By the way Jan.....who told you about this movie?
Baraka was, as the website tells us, one of the last movies filmed in the 70MM TODDAO format. However it should be noted that, the super 8 copy would come from a 35mm print for mastering.
The problem I heard was, only the 70mm prints were stunning. The 35mm prints of Baraka had problems, as noted in the behind the scenes documentary found on the (second edition) DVD of this movie (The first edition was only the feature with no supplements). The 35mm footage should have appeared grainy, and bouncy, and with poor contrast.
As for other films, I would love to see the Disney animated features of years past, starting with Little Mermaid, re-released to include widescreen 1:85 letter box ratio. Derann has done this with Fantasia 2000 during it's only so far release, so they could do it again.
In adddition, we need to have more movies in stereo sound, period. Derann boasts to be the only company with a high speed stereo recorder for super 8. And there's lots of us who don't have 708EL or 1200GS machines combined with a Pedro box; and/or the knowledge to rerecord our prints privately. And to be honest, some of the used films I have baught that were redubbed before I got them, are not the best redubbing quality.
Chip Gelmini
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Barry Attwood
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1411
From: Enfield, U.K.
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted June 04, 2006 03:08 AM
Jan, "Aladdin" is already on 8mm, and is one of the best 8mm prints that came out of the Disney/Derann deal, so look for it on the 2nd hand lists. I've been looking at the lists of films being offered by forum members, and although some of them are classics, I'm afraid that most will never see the projection light of day, simply because: A) There is no way some of the titles mentioned would ever get the money laid out on a negative and soundtrack back. B) No 35mm master is likely to be found to make the said negative and soundtrack.
As to titles like "20,000 Leagues Under The Sea" I had a few years back a lovely IB Tech 16mm edited version, professionally edited by Disney, and I offered this to Derek to release, and he told me he had the chance to release it F/L in Scope, but at the time no one was interested, all the collector wanted was the animated classics, and now it was too late, and wouldn't sell!
I know we all have our own wish list for films we would like to see made available on 8mm, but as ALL NEW 8mm releases have to come of a 35mm master, you must think about that for a moment, what is the likeyhood of a 35mm print of a 40 or 50 year old classic turning up on 35mm (and in pristine condition, no scratches, little splices etc.), compared with a modern day (say the last 10 years) film, even these are supposed to be destroyed after there "shelf" life. Perhaps some of the short subjects mentioned are a possibility, as I've found over the years that more care and attention is taken to features on 35mm than short subjects, but we must all get real here, and don't expect the impossible from Derann, as it may just not be possible.
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