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James N. Savage 3
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posted November 02, 2007 12:04 PM

I would love to see a nice 600 foot extract of 2001: A Space Oddessy, in scope and stereo. Preferably, the last 30 minutes or so.

James.

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Graham Sinden
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posted November 02, 2007 12:08 PM

Sorry to be a killjoy, but isnt it time we stopped this thread. I think Derann have a good idea now about what we want to see on super 8, and this list just goes on and on...

Graham S

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Mark Howard
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posted November 02, 2007 02:14 PM

Oh come on Graham, where's your sense of adventure? It's a fun thread that's throwing up a lot of forgotten gems, and even though Derann will have their future releases mapped out by now, it's still nice to see 8mm wish lists we'll probably never see realised. Besides, I haven't mentioned the beach scene from Saving Private Ryan yet!

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Lee Mannering
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posted November 02, 2007 04:24 PM

I agree Mark. Keep the ideas coming folks!

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Osi Osgood
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posted November 02, 2007 08:59 PM

An excellent title for a 600ft animated release and, I believe, it is a British film.

"The Man Who Planted Trees".

An academy award winner and an amazing animated film. Anyone who has seen this can't help but truly be moved by the sheer beauty and emotion built into the story!

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James N. Savage 3
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posted November 03, 2007 10:40 AM

I'm also for the scene from "Saving Private Ryan". And don't forget the scene from 2001 and Terminator 3!

James.

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Michael De Angelis
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posted November 03, 2007 02:37 PM

Is this possibly the longest post
on this Forum and is Derann listening?

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Christopher Quinn
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posted November 03, 2007 02:41 PM

Is there any chance that Derann will ever release a full feature again?

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Larry Arpin
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posted November 03, 2007 03:47 PM

I would also vote for SAVING PRIVATE RYAN as a section:
either the Normandy landing or the very end attack or both. I think Derann is more confused than ever. Maybe they can list possible choices that we can pick from?

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Michael De Angelis
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posted November 03, 2007 04:03 PM

Confusion? -Perhaps.
Money and investment? -A possibility
Acquiring a negative ? -Definitely needed along with excellent lab work.

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David Kilderry
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posted November 04, 2007 06:27 AM

The supply of new 16mm prints from David Shepards Blackhawk library has recently ceased due to the illness of the lab person.

Any chance of Derann printing some of these fantastic old shorts on Super 8 under licence? When I last ordered some last year there were still over 100 great early cinema titles featuring comedians and docos.

David

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Michael De Angelis
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posted November 04, 2007 08:35 PM

David,

Good comment.
We all wonder if the Blackhawk negs
will ever become available again?

When Shepard acquired the negs and
began printing around 15- 20 years
ago, he did print some titles in 8mm sound.
I recall Tit for Tat, Saps at Sea, Angora Love,
The Chases of Pimple Street,were some of the few
offerings. However there was not a tremendous
demand and then the printing was limited to 16mm.
If I am correct, he also had not created any new printing
materials in at least 10 years.

But one could only hope that whatever was old,
will become new again.
[Wink]

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Steve Klare
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posted November 04, 2007 10:02 PM

I've kind of wondered about Derann or CHC releasing some of the great classic silents: unless they decided to add a music track (like Blackhawk did), they wouldn't even need to stripe them.

How about some Chaplin or maybe something really ancient like Great Train Robbery?

Question: Has Derann ever sold silent films?

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Barry Attwood
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posted November 05, 2007 10:01 AM

Derann I'm afraid would not go after the Blackhawk titles as they cannot get hold of any polyester B/W stock these days, and they will not print of old B/W negs onto colour stock, as this can produce a variety of different hues on the printed 8mm film (who remembers the white box specials that Derann used to do) from Blue to Yellow, this was OK in days of a lab like Rank Films, where they would happily take back, or credit for these reels, but the lab that does all Derann's work is a small business these days, so unless it's their fault, there is no comeback once printed. CHC does have use of acetate B/W 8mm stock, but as they would have to be printed in Germany, I doubt the owner of the Blackhawk library would be too pleased for the negs to go out of the country, come to think of it I doubt even Derann could persuade him to let them out of the U.S.

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Graham Sinden
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posted November 05, 2007 11:29 AM

Another point to make is that old B/W titles would not attract the young collectors out there and its the young collectors who have the cash! This is exactly why Derann released 'End of Days' because Arnold is still very popular with under 40's. Also Derann may have been able to get a cheap deal because of previous titles from the same source and the negatives were readily available.

Many super 8 releases would be down to rights and the availability of negatives. Derann recently told me that the problem with any more Wallace And Grommit releases is the rights, and Derann like any other have to work to a budget.

I think its unlikely we will see another feature from Derann as they seem to be concentrating on extracts and trailers which are cheaper so they sell more. What Derann also have to think about is 'what sells' which is another reason why Arnie and Gladiator are both on super 8. They could produce more Laurel and Hardy shorts on super 8, but what is the point when you can buy them on 16mm for around £30 to £50.

CHC may release more features on super 8 because Phil may get a cheap deal with the german labs.

Graham S

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Michael De Angelis
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posted November 05, 2007 11:23 PM

Barry made a very good comment,
because the Blackhawk material is
copyrighted in the USA and APO, FPO,
territories etc.

I believe that the Kruppe organization was the
distributor of Laurel and Hardy in
Europe.

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Jean-Marc Toussaint
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posted November 07, 2007 10:40 AM

Something I'd love to see on super 8 would be "The Crimson Permanent Assurance". It's the 15 minutes "short feature", directed by Terry Gilliam, used as an opener for "Monty Python's The Meaning of Life". It's a lot of fun, action and singing.

(I'll post that message on the CHC topic as well).

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Tom Johnson
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posted November 09, 2007 04:45 AM

1. I doubt it'll ever happen, but I'd buy in a heartbeat a longer-than-400-ft and not 3-d version of "Creature from the Black Lagoon" (because for all the hype I keep hearing about the great the 3d version can be, the 2 prints that I have are awful--(maybe it's the glasses, but i can't get a good view no matter what I' try)

2. The Mole People

3. Feature length WC Fields movies. I don't have any interest at all in the edited versions of his features. I'd especially go for "the Bank Dick," "Never Give a Sucker and Even Break," "man on the Flying Trapeze" and "It's a Gift." --Tom

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Mark Todd
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posted November 09, 2007 10:26 AM

Why don`t we all try to see if we can get the first part of saving private ryan released or even the last 20 mins would be great, and all commit to buying a copy if we can a good fifty of us, lets go for it and actually be part of doing something for the hobby.
Surely on either of those we can all agree to stump up. I think the last battle segment would be a better seller.
Come on lets do it.Lets suss a print and see if we can.
Best Mark.

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Osi Osgood
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posted November 09, 2007 10:31 AM

Jean marc, I totally agree with you! We just watched that Python classic, (though you see very little of the pythons in it), and it would make an excellent release on Super 8! Just the right size for a 400ft reel AND completely self contained!
A full story!!

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Michael De Angelis
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posted November 09, 2007 10:38 PM

The Private Ryan sounds good.

Tom,the MCA Universal prints of
Man on the Flying Trapeze and
It's a Gift are difficult to find
in 16mm, and would be very good releases.

Years ago, Million Dollar Legs was
released as a complete feature in
Super 8 Sound.

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Tom Photiou
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posted November 11, 2007 12:58 PM

So we all agree then, saving private ryan, 1st 600foot [Big Grin]

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Mark Howard
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posted November 11, 2007 01:35 PM

Yeah, come on Derann, try and work out a release for Saving Private Ryan.

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Antonis Galanakis
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posted February 18, 2009 03:57 AM

PRESTO - Disney & Pixar new small film that came with WALL - E.
Clasic look alike, great story!

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Jeroen van Ooijen
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posted February 18, 2009 11:25 AM

Hello i have one movie i want to see in Super8 the animated movie from Don Bluths "Anastasia",it is a beautiful movie in scope.

Greets,
Jeroen. [Smile]

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