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Mike Newell
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posted August 17, 2015 04:08 PM

Roger Lilley Moveland International a true Gentleman. He had some abhorrence of horror movies but you could trade movies with him on his lists for little money and postage. A rarity amongst dealers. He released a few feature releases in the 1980s.

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Andrew Woodcock
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posted August 17, 2015 04:11 PM

Thanks for the insight Mike! This trader, other than a vague recollection of the trading name "Movieland international" ,was completely unknown by myself.

Whereabouts was he based?

Very sad to hear he didn't get a fair "roll of the dice" so to speak.

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Brian Fretwell
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posted August 17, 2015 04:19 PM

Cornwall was his location if I recall correctly, West Country definitely.

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Andrew Woodcock
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posted August 17, 2015 04:29 PM

Beautiful part of the world as I know Tom will testify! [Wink]

Wish I had been on Watergate Beach again today!

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Mike Newell
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posted August 17, 2015 04:30 PM

Roger released Riddle in the Sands and a couple of other features Mark Silvester will proberably know more as he is so much older than me ha ha! Roger was Plymouth based not to be mistaken with Ron Browning who ran Dane Films/ Highgate Films at Indian Queens Cornwall lovely address shame about him.

There was also Pinedene Film with Mr Smith in Southampton which was an aladdins cave of every film gauge.

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Andrew Woodcock
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posted August 17, 2015 04:34 PM

Yes I had heard plenty of Dane and Pinedene and purchased from the latter in the 80's but sadly had no dealings with Roger.

He sounded like a lovely man.

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Mike Newell
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posted August 17, 2015 04:46 PM

He released a lot of Betty Boop cartoons and titles that you never got anywhere else. He was far too trusting and got a his titles bootlegged which killed his sales.

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Steven J Kirk
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posted August 17, 2015 06:45 PM

Best bargain - the much-maligned eBay, FLYING DOWN TO RIO, full length version, nice print with no splices hardly a scratch, £17.25 with free postage. Mountain print.

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VistaVision
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Steve Carter
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posted August 18, 2015 09:51 AM

Another bundle included 600ft Derann 'It's In The Air' George Formbey, it's on colour stock and is on the blue side, it's a good watch, a nice cut down...

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Simon McConway
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posted August 18, 2015 09:53 AM

A GS1200 Xenon for £5, but post was £3,000

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Steven J Kirk
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posted August 18, 2015 11:02 AM

Wow, this thread is an eye-opener! Every time collectors moan about scratches and fade and how terrible eBay is, they neglect to mention all these great deals and bargains they got. I think eBay evens out if you buy regularly, in fact.

GS Xenon, mine was only £2.99! but it was 'collection only' and it was MacMurdo base, Antarctica. Had to use a sled and a team of dogs to get it back but I did get a signed photo from Kurt Russell. [Eek!]

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Paul Browning
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posted August 18, 2015 11:08 AM

Did you buy it from Kurt Russell Steve ?.

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Steven J Kirk
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posted August 18, 2015 11:27 AM

Yes, he had been using it to show some Thing or other, can't remember what. But didn't need it anymore. I had a bit of trouble with one of the dogs on the way back, less said about that the better. It ended up in a bit of a mess...

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Steve Carter
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posted August 18, 2015 12:11 PM

'Yellow snow'!...

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Paul Browning
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posted August 18, 2015 12:53 PM

I did have some bargains from derann, but although I had a ringside seat, the demise was and still is sad, at least I can say they went to a good home, and were not bought to sell on for gain, £5.00 for anamorphic lens, complete, and a GS1200 toolkit £2.50 to name but a few things.

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Tom Photiou
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posted August 18, 2015 12:56 PM

Movieland International, aka,looney movie co aka Plymouth home movie centre aka aarchive film productions. Roger also produced many local history documentary's on Video, we actually did a production which Roger helped us produce and filmed & released into the shops.
My Brother is an amateur historian and this was his first video release.
Roger had a cine shop for a very short time in Liskeard in the main high street, but he lived and was based in Plymouth. His first shop was Cathcart Avenue in Laira, then onto Liskeard and when he returned to Plymouth he bought a lovely house in Jennycliff where he has a garage converted into his cinema and cine business. I very often would ring up on a Saturday and if he had a collection in we were always invited around to have a pick of the bunch.
BTW. Roger main job was a lecturer in Business studies at Plymouth University. Take a look at this and click the continue button on the web site.
http://www.aarchive.co.uk/about_aarchive/a_career_with_films/
And here is my Brother Phillips video release with Rogers company
http://www.aarchive.co.uk/documentaries/historical_plymouth/plymouth_chronicles_of_the_civil_war/

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Andrew Woodcock
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posted August 18, 2015 03:50 PM

A really interesting insight to Roger's fine work there Tom. Good to see his son is still working in the family built business, now concentrating on the transfer of cine film to digital media.

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John Armer
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posted August 18, 2015 05:19 PM

I have never, ever, seen cine films at a car boot sale. I did get my Agfa Sonector from one though, £3. I didn't need to change the bulb for about 15 years.

Slightly off topic, but I went to a film fair in Sheffield about 20 years ago and there was a dealer selling original posters of the Hammer double bill She and One Million Years BC. He had about a dozen, mint and rolled up, for £5 each. I bought one (I was a student at the time) and have it framed... I've seen them sell for over a hundred now.

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Tom Photiou
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posted August 20, 2015 06:42 AM

John its funny you should mention boot sales, i always thought a few years ago they would be flooded with them but as yet apart from a few old silent machines i have found nothing for my super 8 or 16mm collections.

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Terry Sills
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posted August 20, 2015 08:19 AM

My best to date was a Sankyo 702 complete with a 1.0 Hi-Pro lens. Given to me for free from my old place of work Mercedes-Benz UK, where it was used in the past in their Training Centre. Hardly used and in beautiful condition. I still have it. They also gave me some 16mm training films, some of which I still have as well.

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Narendra Singh
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posted August 20, 2015 12:52 PM

Recently my son purchased a DeJur P1010 custom 8mm Projector for me. He was much impressed with the aesthetic condition of this 50+ year old machine. Also since these machines rarely come up for sale. Hope he took the right decision.

Not sure whether this falls under the 'Best Bargain' category since he paid a whopping $50. May be this might be the Worst Bargain ever. [Confused]

Your comments please.

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Narendra Singh
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posted August 26, 2015 02:07 PM

Yesterday the machine came in by post. This is what my son purchased for me. Have a look:-

http://www.ebay.com/itm/391223885724?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=ST RK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

The machine looks beautiful. Although as per the Ad, the projector was supposed to be in working order but that wasn't the case.

The projector when put on initial test the motor only made a humming noise and the motor started to smell and smoke (due to high arcing at the carbon brushes) without the armature turning. On switching off the machine and checking I found that the main worm shaft was jammed at one end due to hardening of old grease. The belt being old had starched and needed replacement. It also needed some general maintenance. Once the machine was serviced by fresh greasing and oiling, the machine performed like almost new. Took me 2 hours to get the machine in perfect running condition, but it was worth the effort. It runs astonishingly smooth and very silent. The machine seems to have been hardly used over the years.

I am very happy to have this beautiful and excellent machine. I can now say this is one good bargain. [Smile]

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Andrew Woodcock
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posted August 26, 2015 02:18 PM

Well done Narendra, it's a lovely vintage machine.

It's the type of projector that simply looks fantastic as a display showpiece, even better now its fully working!
Well done you!! You must surely be thrilled to pieces. [Wink]

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Panayotis A. Carayannis
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posted August 27, 2015 02:34 AM

I consider a bargain, my exellent copy of GONE WITH THE WIND, bought for 250 pounds from Paul Foster from one of his summer sales a few years ago.

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Tom Photiou
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posted August 27, 2015 11:36 AM

Panayotis, we also purchased GWTW from Paul many years ago, that's one was also £250, one of the very best prints we have. This is a title my Brother went to see in the cinema years ago over and over again, i think he lost count of how many times he went.
Out of the blue i rang Paul to ask if it was a film he got in many times and as pure luck would have it he said, and i quote
"believe it or not i am looking at a print i just bought in".
It was sold there and then [Wink]

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