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Maurice Leakey
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 - posted December 10, 2007 03:28 AM      Profile for Maurice Leakey   Email Maurice Leakey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Having bought an old Super 8 film which the seller had treated with FilmGuard I would be interested to hear Forum's members experience of this product.

I clean films using Isopropyl Alcohol B.P. which evaporates after use, but FilmGuard seems to stay on the print creating an oily appearance.

Maurice

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Jean-Marc Toussaint
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 - posted December 10, 2007 04:23 AM      Profile for Jean-Marc Toussaint   Author's Homepage   Email Jean-Marc Toussaint   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Maurice, use the "search" feature of this forum as the question has been heavily debated... You will find gazillions of opinions and answers, some of them in conflict with one another. You'll have to judge. Personnaly, I like Film Guard and Film Renew...

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David Pannell
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 - posted December 10, 2007 05:38 AM      Profile for David Pannell   Author's Homepage   Email David Pannell   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm with Jean-Marc, though I use Filmguard exclusively.

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Maurice Leakey
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 - posted December 10, 2007 06:33 AM      Profile for Maurice Leakey   Email Maurice Leakey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thank you, Gentlemen.

I've used "Search" and there seems a wide divergence of opinion of the various products for cleaning and lubricating film.

There was was one question about removing the sticky bits on leaders left by adhesive tape. For this I use "Plaster Remover" made by Adams of Leeds. This is sold for removing the sticky pieces which are often left by plasters (Elastoplast, etc.) removed from the skin. I obtained mine from Boots Pharmacy. The label says it contains a hydrocarbon blend (whatever that is.)

Maurice

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Lee Mannering
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 - posted December 10, 2007 08:05 AM      Profile for Lee Mannering     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Just a short message Maurice from my semi sick bed and only fresh back from hospital Friday…Not a good month.

Kevin gave me some sound advice a bit back. Best not to use Iso on Acetate film as it does not do it much good in the long term. I now use Film Renew and it seems to suit my films here very well. I buy a large plastic container and break down for local collectors onto 250ml bottles. We all now use FR and it works for us.

I know nothing about Film Guard but many seem to like it although it does seem expensive perhaps.

Happy Christmas film shows..

PS. You can buy FILMGUARD direct from Jack Roe email
sales@jack-roe.co.uk

They are the only authorised supplier of this chemical in the UK for Filmguard.

[ December 10, 2007, 12:54 PM: Message edited by: Lee Mannering ]

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David Pannell
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Paul Foster of Foster Films is also a supplier of genuine FilmGuard. Visit www.fosterfilms.co.uk

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Michael O'Regan
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Hi David,

I've begun using FilmGuard recently, but, I do worry about the fact that the print stays wet.

How and when do you use it? Do you store films still "wet" ?

-Mike.

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Osi Osgood
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 - posted December 10, 2007 02:16 PM      Profile for Osi Osgood   Author's Homepage   Email Osi Osgood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Maurice,

The only good advice I can offer, (as it scared me as to what you stated) ...

NEVER clean a film with alcohol based cleaners, as they will, with many uses, prematurely age your film, as the alcohol has a drying effect, that will tend to work it's way into the film.

I'm sure there will be some that may say the opposite, but the very chemical nature of alcohol would work against film in the long term.

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David Pannell
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Hi Michael,

It depends what you mean by 'wet'. The advantage of FilmGuard is that it keeps the film AND the film path of your projector lubricated. It is a proper film lubricant as well as a cleaner. The film shouldn't be 'wet' as such, but should have a very thin film (if you'll forgive the pun) of lubricant. It should just feel barely oily to the touch.

Hope this helps.

Best,

[ December 11, 2007, 05:51 AM: Message edited by: David Pannell ]

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Brad Miller
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 - posted December 10, 2007 11:23 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Remember 1 ounce of FilmGuard is enough to clean a 12,000-16,000 foot roll of 35mm film for 3 dozen cleanings. Now do the math and translate that into 8mm. As you can clearly see, one quart of FilmGuard is going to properly clean WAY WAY WAY more than gallons of any other cleaner.

The trick is simply not to go overboard with it because it takes very little for it to work it's magic.

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David Ian Turner
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From: Morphett Vale Adelaide South Australia Australia
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 - posted April 23, 2010 09:33 AM      Profile for David Ian Turner   Email David Ian Turner   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi everyone

Does anyone know where I can get FilmGuard in Australia?

I tried my local cinema supplies shop (Edge Digital Technology) however they sold their last bottle a while ago and do not intend to stock any more as there is no demand for it. Apparently cinemas that still use film now use Particle Transfer Rollers (PTR) to clean and lubricate their films while running them.

Thank you

David Turner
Morphett Vale
South Australia

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Damien Taylor
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quote:

Does anyone know where I can get FilmGuard in Australia

Try these (hopefully current) details from the mother site.

Intec Pacific
Ground Floor
44 Carrington Road
Castle Hill NSW 2154
Australia
Phone: +61 (2) 9894 4388
intec@unwired.com.au

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David Ian Turner
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Hi Damien

Thank you for your prompt reply. I should have tried looking it up myself on Internet Explorer!

I have sent them an e-mail. We'll see what happens.

I have also sent an e-mail to Cinetech Australia.

Thanks again

David Turner
Morphett Vale
South Australia

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