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Topic: 8mm film with sound stripe
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Alan L. Hitchcox
Film Handler
Posts: 47
From: Willoughby, OH, USA
Registered: Apr 2006
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posted January 04, 2008 09:58 PM
I recently acquired some 8mm sound films on eBay. As is often the case, the seller didn't know anything about the films, and I couldn't communicate to him the difference between standard 8mm and super 8 film stock. He couldn't even tell me what size the spindle hole is in the center of the reel.
I took a chance and bid on the films. I won about five of them, and they arrived today. Much to my disappointment, they are all standard 8mm film, and my sound projector only shows super 8.I plan on posting these for sale on this forum, but I'm not sure what this film is called. Physically, it is the same size as my standard 8mm films, and it has a sound stripe on the same edge as the sprocket holes. Is this single-8 film, or something else.
Oh, for those curious about the titles, they are:
The "Benny Goodman Story," 1955, starring Steve Allen and Donna Reed (five 400-ft reels); "The Red Stallion," a western from 1947, (four 400-ft reels); "Cattle Queen," a western from 1951 (four 400-ft reels), "A Chump at Oxford," starring, of course, Laurel & Hardy, plus several shorts, including Freddy & the Dreamers (remember them?) performing "You Were Made for Me," an artist closeup called "The Unsinkable Bette Davis," plus a couple cartoons and baseball shorts.
Thanks, and I look forward to any help you can render.
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Alan Hitchcox
Willoughby, Ohio USA
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David Pannell
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1072
From: Horsham, West Sussex, UK
Registered: Nov 2004
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posted January 07, 2008 01:04 PM
I agree with J-M and Lee.
I have a Eumig S 810 D dual gauge sound projector, which is permanently set up for std 8.
I also have a Eumig Mark S which is a standard 8 only sound machine. I recently modified it by fitting a front arm at the rear for the take-up spool. I can now run 600ft reels on both machines, which I find superb. (The S 810 D takes 600ft reels anyway).
I heartily concur with both the previous posts in that I have no hesitation in thoroughly recommending either of these two projectors for standard 8 films, whether they be sound or silent.
However, if you're a bit of an "anorak/purist" like myself, I still use either of my 2 Elmos (E-80 or F-80) or the Ampro Futurist 8, for silent standard 8 screenings - it just seems to provide the right ambiance somehow, so to speak.
Enjoy your standard 8 films - they can be very good, you know!
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Dave.
Valves and celluloid - a great combination!
Early technology rules OK!
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Paul Adsett
Film God
Posts: 5003
From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted February 21, 2008 02:13 PM
Eric, you won't get any flack from me about Eumig projectors- I have always held my Eumig's in very high regard. I have a special affection for the 800 series, they are so compact and solidly built, just great little work horses. I do not like the coaxial reel 900-929 series, but the later non-coaxial 900 series (930 and up) are superb, with the 938 stereo and 940 stereo being the crown jewels of all the Eumigs.
It is interesting to compare the engineering approach of the Eumig and Elmo designers. Both companies manufactured superb equipment, but I think in many respects the Eumig designers were a little more sophisticated and innovative. Many of the Eumig projectors have some really clever features, one being already mentioned in this thread, how the 824D automatically throws standard 8 film to the larger loop size for 56 frames separation, with just a little change in the angle of the bottom of the gate. Now that is clever! The Elmo GS1200 is a superb machine of course, perhaps the best ever super 8 projector in some regards. Looking at the design, with its miriad of microswitches and relays and solenoids, you can see that the engineers took a very straightforward and logical approach to its complicated electronic control design. Solid engineering, well executed, nothing wrong with it, but also nothing that jumps out as being a brilliant new idea.
Anyway, I have rambled too much, and am probably being overly critical of Elmo. Just some random thoughts on these two great projector manufacturers. To each his own. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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