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Grant Fitzgerald
Expert Film Handler
Posts: 161
From: Owatonna, MN
Registered: Oct 2011
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posted December 12, 2011 12:43 PM
The Immigrant is a (1917) Charlie Chaplin film. This is only the second charlie Chaplin film I have ever seen. I know, I know as a film major I should see more of his stuff but hey I have a huge list of films that are on my must view list.
Charlie is on his way to the USA. He wins in a card game, puts the money in Edna's bag (she and her sick mother have been robbed of everything). When he retrieves a little for himself he is accused of being a thief. Edna clears his name. Later, broke, Charlie finds a coin and goes into a restaurant. There he finds Edna, whose mother has died, and asks her to join him. When he reaches for the coin to pay for their meals it is missing.
The beginning of the film was definitely the funniest part of the whole film in my opinion. I didn't like it as much as Charlie's 'The Kid" but it was still an excellent film. Anyways, my copy of the film looks great in my opinion and I can't wait to view it with many in the future.
Before the film started it had a brief history of this film and said that Chaplin had shot as much footage on The Immigrant as most directors would to photograph a feature-length production. In his efforts to continuously refine the film, he exposed more than 90,000 feet of negative (the finished film runs approximately 2,000 feet), and he went four days and nights without rest while editing the film to final length.
A Walt Disney Christmas Today I got A Walt Disney Christmas on Super 8mm. I have already watched it twice. One to view for pleasure and the second to take pics. This film is in great condition with just a little fade, but is holding up really well! I was very excited to get this films for two reasons. One I love Christmas films and two it is my first one on Super 8.
Anyways, this is a compilation of 4 Disney Short Films; Toy Tinkers, Santa's Workshop, The Night Before Christmas and Pluto's Christmas Tree. These are extracted versions to fit in 16.34 min, 400' reel. ON can hardly tell that they have been extracted at all, they flow very well together. This has already become a new favorite and I will enjoy many viewings. YOu can find all of these shorts on YOUTUBE.
[ December 12, 2011, 02:53 PM: Message edited by: Grant Fitzgerald ]
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Winbert Hutahaean
Film God
Posts: 5468
From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted December 13, 2011 09:42 AM
quote: Anyways, this is a compilation of 4 Disney Short Films; Toy Tinkers, Santa's Workshop, The Night Before Christmas and Pluto's Christmas Tree. These are extracted versions to fit in 16.34 min, 400' reel.
Grant, I saw you have dealt with the previous problem of your projector (jitters, shaking). Congratulation! now you can enjoy the magic of super 8mm.
Knowing you are new to 8mm films, and perhaps you would like to know that beside the above Walt Disney Christmas, there are several other compilations like it, i.e where you can have a 400' reel with 4 to 5 stories.
They are:
I already knew that the below titles should be also available:
9. Mickey first 50 years Anniversary
13. Goofy over sports
Apart from the last one (no. 13) they are not rare, so can be bought between $10-15. Still more economical rather than to buy 4 shorts. And as you have mentioned, we hardly to notice where the stories have been extracted.
Beside there are also three other compilation reel but they are only 2 stories on each 400' reel (so no extract) and what I knew they were only originally available SILENT.
ps: although one company in UK has stripped it and added sound. I have 1 reel with sound added.
Good luck,
-------------------- Winbert
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Akshay Nanjangud
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 637
From: Dallas, TX
Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 13, 2011 02:57 PM
Dino, I didn't think of a cut of the film by a previous owner. In favor of your argument, reels 1 and 3 are 300', while the second reel is 200'. So like you say, it's a total of 800'. At least, I feel good to have the full movie.
Now, consider this:
1. The box for these three reels, I believe to be original, is perfectly built to house three reels. 2. The head of Reel 1 says "Start 1", the heads of Reels 2 and 3 read "Start 2 ....... Reel Two" and "Start 3 ....... Reel 3", respectively.
Perhaps an oddity from Blackhawk to accommodate 300' capacity projectors?
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Gerald Santana
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1060
From: Cottage Grove OR
Registered: Dec 2010
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posted December 14, 2011 01:54 AM
When I first took a look at Foolish Wives, I was baffled why it was on 6 x 400' reels without heads or tails on any of the reels (and only half full -- at about 200' each). I ran them just fine on their own but, the moment I transfered them to 2 x 600' reels, the film filled the reels to capacity.
I ran it again later in the week and I could not finish the film because it started to un-spool near the end! It did not fit into the 600' take up reel for my Elmo ST600. This is just a heads up for anyone trying to watch a reel filled to capacity: you're going to need a bigger take up reel.
Anyway, I'm still looking over many films that I just bought at an Estate Sale. Many amazing silents were included in the boxes. Here are a few more that I watched last night...
Ben-Hur: A Tale of the Christ (1925) Reel 2 started the screening and I noticed this time that the print has slightly soft focus and is not amber! I must have been confused by my cameras setting but, I decided to leave them that way anyway -- I think it looks really good.
An excellent serial that is not to be missed by any silent film enthusiast is The Perils of Pauline . We took a look at the first episode in the series, “Through Air and Fire” on 2 x 400' from Blackhawk Films, which is a very exciting film with extraordinary sequences.
And finally, an incomplete print of The Three Musketeers (1916) aka D'Artagnan which was sort of hilarious and had some of the most expressive faces on film I have ever seen. I'm missing reel one of this 3 x 400' Blackhawk release.
If anyone has an extra copy of R1 laying around, consider me interested in it.
-------------------- http://lostandoutofprintfilms.blogspot.com/
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Winbert Hutahaean
Film God
Posts: 5468
From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted December 14, 2011 10:10 AM
Below pictures are not mine. Just took it from Ebay listings, ad Ebay would remove them after 60 days, I chose to save it in this database, so they can be used for future reference.
ps: click link to see pictures
Independence Day (Derann, Scope, Stereo, 5 x 600')
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Previous listing: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200681541458 Sold for C$450 (28 Nov, 2011)
Jason And The Argonauts (Derann, Flat, 4 x 600')
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Previous listing: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200665195268 Sold for US$400 (26 Oct, 2011)
Gone With The Wind (Derann, Flat, 8 x 400', Kodak LPP Polyester)
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e209/winberthutahaean/Untuk%20Email/Gomewiththewind .jpg
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Previous Listing: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200669703297 Sold for C$506 (07 Nov, 2011)
An American In Paris (Derann from Ken negative, 6 x 400', Agfa)
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e209/winberthutahaean/Untuk%20Email/AmericaninParis .jpg
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Previous listing: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200672513895 Sold for 149.99 (14 Nov, 2011)
-------------------- Winbert
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Panayotis A. Carayannis
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 969
From: Athens,Greece
Registered: Jul 2008
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posted December 18, 2011 05:42 AM
Akshay, It doen't matter that the second reel was half full as long as the total running time is correct,somewhat difficult with silent films as long as they are run at random speed and you must find the correct one,(and this is another unending debate piece). In your (and Gerald's and everyone's) case,it is the number and length of the film's reels as they were available to the producing company.Even in "today's" Derann features, supplied in 600 ft reels,you will find an odd reel that fills only with 400 feet, i.e with two "original" reels,since the feature is an 8, or 11 reeler. On the opposite,many silent features were originally in smaller than 10 or 9 minute reels.Several times, I have put silent "8 reelers" in 3x 400 reels,or better,if they overfill, in 2x 600 and 1x 400. and I don't mind if the 400 footer is in the middle,or, 5 reelers,(especially B westerns), in 2x 400, without overfilling. Gerald, No matter the number of reels you got it,you have the edited 8 reel version of FOOLISH WIVES that has been floating around for ages! If you really like it,try to find the later Blackhawk version,an exellent copy in 6x400 full reels,restored by Arthur Lenning.
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