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Dave Cragg
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 166
From: Merseyside, Great Britain
Registered: Jun 2005

posted March 15, 2008 05:20 PM

Hi all,
just bought a scope lens and bracket on Ebay.
I've been thinking about getting one for a while and I wonder if other members could tell me whether it involves an inordinate amount of 'farting about' to get good results? (yes I realise one of the joys of this hobby is 'farting about'!) [Big Grin]

In particular, can anyone give me guidance on:
1/ How close should the scope lens be to the projector lens?
2/ Is it a particular problem to get good focus?
3/ Am I limited to how much I can zoom in/out?

Thanx,
Dave

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Brad Miller
Administrator

Posts: 525
From: Dallas, TX, USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted March 16, 2008 12:59 AM

1. Putting the lens right up against the prime (your normal) lens will only use a tiny amount of the glass in the anamorphic, particularly if you have purchased a commercial 35mm anamorphic like Chip Gelmini (and I) use. Move it forward until you find the point where it "vingettes" and you have dark corners, the move it back so the dark corners are gone, and then back just a little bit further. (Don't touch your zoom during this.)

2. Many anamorphic lenses can only focus down to a certain number of feet. That will depend on your particular lens.

3. Yes, see above.

4. To focus the lens, run the film out of frame so you can see a frameline on screen. Rack the anamorphic's astigmatism adjustment as far out of whack as you can so the image is super blurry. Now using the projector's focus knob, bring that horizontal frame line into perfect focus (your vertical lines will still look awful). At this point, without touching the projector's focus, adjust the astigmatism adjustment on the anamorphic so that the entire image is in focus. This procedure is focusing "through the lens" and will achieve a more accurate end result as opposed to going by the footage markings to set your astigmatism.

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Dave Cragg
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 166
From: Merseyside, Great Britain
Registered: Jun 2005

posted April 04, 2008 05:17 PM

Thanks for your help Brad.
Just projected my first scope fim; the trailer to 'Zulu'.
Absolutely delighted with the results!

Dave

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Keith Ashfield
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 997
From: U.K.
Registered: Dec 2006

posted April 04, 2008 05:28 PM

Glad you enjoyed the ZULU trailer Dave. It's great in scope don't you think? A good buy, yes? [Smile]

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Dave Cragg
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 166
From: Merseyside, Great Britain
Registered: Jun 2005

posted April 05, 2008 11:50 AM

Yes, definitely, its great.
Did I buy it off you?

Dave

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Keith Ashfield
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 997
From: U.K.
Registered: Dec 2006

posted April 05, 2008 01:22 PM

Yes Dave. So glad your happy with it. It's a pity the full feature isn't available, but there you are, we all have our dreams.
Keith

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Chip Gelmini
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1733
From: Brooksville, FL
Registered: Jun 2003

posted April 05, 2008 04:18 PM

Until I discovered 35mm lenses there was no hope for me to have scope where I live. Before this forum, before the internet, and going back only 10 years or so, I didn't even know Derann existed. The only problem was how to mount such a large lens to a projector. For me, the answer was, you don't. I built a stand out of plywood and got the right parts to attach the lens to the v-box. Changing from flat to scope is as simple as sliding the vbox away from or in front of the flat lens. Cinemascope is great when you have it all set to go. As for this farting about the forum or hobby, heavens no...certainly not me........

Chip [Big Grin]

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