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Osi Osgood
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posted April 27, 2008 12:59 PM

Hey, I saw, (verified) that, as of this Sunday, with five hours to go, there is a copy of ALIEN, 200ft edition, Super 8mm color, with an audio cassette for the sound. It's complete.
Note, it's on American ebay, super 8 listing. (it's twelve noon, so it ends at approximetely 5 p.m. today.)

My question for those who have had these 200 ft super 8 editions with the cassettes, were these cassettes in stereo?
If they were, a savvy collector could synch it onto the film, as I believe, though silent, they had sound stripe on the films already, just no sound with a cassette.

The film is already up to a little over 40.00 dollars as of this time.

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Jean-Marc Toussaint
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posted April 27, 2008 02:02 PM

Osi, the sound is already on the mag track.
The one I have is in mono.

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Kevin Faulkner
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posted April 27, 2008 04:26 PM

As JM says the Cassette was mono as was the sound already on the film. [Frown]

Kev.

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Osi Osgood
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posted April 27, 2008 05:16 PM

Okay, I'm trying to fugire the logic of including the soundtrack on cassette ...

The only thing I can think of, is that you would of course have better sound with the cassette on your "hi-fi" back then, eh?

Did this 200ft edition have anything different than the 400ft edition, I mean, footage not found on the 400ft?

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Adrian Winchester
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posted April 27, 2008 05:30 PM

I'm baffled by the film having stripe and sound, as it was obvously marketed to people without a sound projector. Considering that the package was more expensive to produce than a normal sound edition, I wondered if anyone might know if the original price was higher?

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Kevin Faulkner
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posted April 27, 2008 06:09 PM

Adrian, I dont think the 200ft version sold without the cassette.
It was sold as a sound/silent version and was basically a gimmick.
How on earth anyone with a silent machine could keep their machine in sync with the cassette is beyond me. Keeping 50ft in wild sync is bad enough let alone 200ft.

Kev

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Osi Osgood
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posted April 27, 2008 10:35 PM

Still curious, what is the content of this 200ft release?

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John Clancy
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posted April 28, 2008 03:49 AM

I have the Alien 200ft reel and it is in a standard 200ft box without the cassette.

The whole purpose of the sound on cassette releases was, as Kevo suggests, for those people with silent projectors to have a go at running the film in sync' with the tape. Very good fun it was too! For my brother and I running the film in sync' resulted in far more viewings of a title mainly to see how accurately sync' could be achieved.

The 200ft of Alien was simply the first 200ft of the 400ft edition. However, there were a couple of extra edits to get the running time down to 8 minutes. The reel ends on the chestburster scene. What a shame Ken Films never put out a second 400ft reel of this title which could have included the ending on the shuttle.

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Steven J Kirk
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posted April 30, 2008 03:06 PM

... and then there was this eBay gem:

http://cgi.ebay.com/16mm-Feature-FILM-1979-ALIEN-Sigourney-Weaver-SCOPE_W0QQitemZ180236004015QQihZ008QQcategoryZ63821QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Bit expensive for my taste.

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Osi Osgood
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posted April 30, 2008 06:34 PM

Hmmm, now, lets see,

having perused that link to the Alien scope 16MM ....

Mine has no "redness", it's a scope L.P.P. super 8 print.

Mine has excellent sharpness

Mine is in stereo ...

Mine cost 300.00 dollars!!

I think my Derann print was a better deal.

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Adrian Winchester
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posted April 30, 2008 07:11 PM

I bet the seller of that 16mm print can't believe his luck. It might look fine now but maybe not for much longer.

I suspect the Super 8 feature would go for a pretty good price if offered on eBay, especially as it was discontinued due to neg damage a long time ago.

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Osi Osgood
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posted April 30, 2008 10:12 PM

It ain't going ANYWHERE!!

...and oooh, it's so good!

(and anybody who owns dat dere print would say the same)

Ditto on "Aliens"

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