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Topic: Have you ever used Cinelarger 8mm?

Winbert Hutahaean
Film God

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From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003

posted June 19, 2008 05:18 AM

Have ever used this Cinelarger 8mm?

The item is being offered
here

How do you see the result? Any possibility to post/scan the result please?. I am quite curios.

thanks

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Trevor Adams
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Auckland,New Zealand
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posted June 19, 2008 05:58 AM

They print a frame on 620 film.I think the super 8mm version uses 120 film -which I understand is obsolete.I used to do my own developing and fixing Win. The results were not really worth the effort! [Roll Eyes]

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Hugh McCullough
Expert Film Handler

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From: Old Coulsdon. Surrey. UK
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posted June 19, 2008 06:28 AM

120 film is still available from Fuji and Kodak.
620 film has been obsolete for years.
The only difference between the two is the spool that the film is wound onto.
620 spools had small lugs on each end, and 120 spools have slots.

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Joe Taffis
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From: United States
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posted June 19, 2008 04:45 PM

I still have a CINELARGER here. I used it several times in the 1970s with really good results. You snap in the frames of super 8 film you want to photograph (without cutting the film), and then expose it to a really bright lamp for a few seconds, then have the film roll processed. I do believe it was 120 film as Trev said. I bought the whole deal, lamp and all, from Superior Bulk Film Co. Those were the days! [Smile]

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Steve Klare
Film Guy

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From: Long Island, NY, USA
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posted June 19, 2008 05:39 PM

I seem to recall seeing a special lens for a 35mm SLR that had a slot for Super-8 at the front. You just aligned the film, made sure there was enough light, and snapped a "screen shot".

Does anybody else remember this?

I also remember a photo store in New York City (...maybe Willoughby's?) advertising this cheap little camera that captured Super-8 frames on 126 cartridge film. It was all of about 10 dollars back in the '70s. At the time I was going into the City pretty often, but never got around to buying one.

(...good thing I didn't: working in one obscure film size is enough!)

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John Whittle
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Northridge, CA USA
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posted June 19, 2008 07:25 PM

Steve,

Century Optics made such a device. I have one for 16mm. It consists of a lens with the proper extension tube and then a film holder with a diffusion glass. I saw one recently on ebay, although I don't recall a Super8 version, they well could have made one. The company was run by Chris Condon back then and he was a master of the odd and unusual. He sold the company and then founded Sterevision where he made up his own split projection lenses for over/under 3-D projection.

John

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Joerg Polzfusz
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From: Berlin, Germany, Europe, Earth, Solar System
Registered: Apr 2006

posted June 20, 2008 04:02 AM

quote:
I seem to recall seeing a special lens for a 35mm SLR that had a slot for Super-8 at the front. You just aligned the film, made sure there was enough light, and snapped a "screen shot".

Does anybody else remember this?

Hi,

such devices have been sold by companies in Western Germany and Berlin (West): Canon, Fuji, Revue, Hama, Rowi, Soligor, Rondo, ... (Some of those devices look very similar = are most likely only relabeled Japanese/HongKong products)
I've seen similar devices from Eastern Germany on eBay as well.

Some of them can be found on eBay:
http://cgi.ebay.de/Rondo-Schmalfilm-Kopierer-fuer-N8-S8-Duplikator_W0QQitemZ330244680665QQihZ014QQcategoryZ28953QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.de/HAMA-Dia-Duplikator-8T-Kopiervorsatz-8mm-Super8-24x36_W0QQitemZ290239219609QQihZ019QQcategoryZ28953QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.de/Rondo-Diaduplikator-Super-8-mit-T2-Anschluss_W0QQitemZ310055157176QQihZ021QQcategoryZ28953QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

You can buy similar devices for slides - e.g. this one claims that you might even be able to zoom and hence only duplicate a small region of the slide. I wonder if the zoom range would allow using Super8-film instead of the slides?!
http://cgi.ebay.de/Dia-Duplikator-Scanner-fuer-Digitale-SLR-Kameras_W0QQitemZ230263683633QQihZ013QQcategoryZ18590QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Jörg

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Adam Wilkins
Junior
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From: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
Registered: May 2008

posted June 20, 2008 06:55 AM

nice topic Winbert. ive been thinking of this idea awhile back..how to print stills from super 8 film without telecine..Cinelarger is the answer.

how does one judge the amount of light and what kind of lamp is best? 120 film would be nice. Were Cinelarger's made for 135/35mm? or only the adapter for a 35mm SLR Camera?

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