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Eysteinn Gudni Gudnason
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From: RVK, Iceland
Registered: Apr 2010

posted August 19, 2010 09:29 AM

Hi.
I'm using Final Cut Pro to edit some 8mm films that I have transferred. Can you recommend any effects to automatically stabilize the image? And possibly to auto color correct it.

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Barry Fritz
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Burnsville, MN, USA
Registered: Dec 2009

posted August 19, 2010 10:23 AM

When you say "stabilize" do you mean you have "flicker" that you would like to eliminate? As far a the capabilities of that software, have you checked any forums that may be specifically for users of the program? That's where you are likely to get the best advice regarding that particular program.

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Winbert Hutahaean
Film God

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From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
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posted August 19, 2010 10:49 AM

Hi Eysteinn,

If you mean "to stabilize" is to make picture not shaking (due to the hand shake during camera shooting), I found in the Vimeo someone invented that kind of software.

With his effort he can transfer 8mm result with quality picture which is very stable, similar to the result people using camera + Jimmy Jib (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Jib)

Just make sure what are you looking and I will try to find on vimeo after your confirmation,.

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Winbert

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Eysteinn Gudni Gudnason
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From: RVK, Iceland
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posted August 20, 2010 05:42 AM

I don't have any flicker problems. I use a very high tech machine that has no flicker.

But the footage itself shakes a lot do to the camera man filmed it freehand, as Barry Fritz described it. So if you can find the Vimeo video about it, that would be great.

EDIT: Do you mean this guy http://vimeo.com/5044466

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Bart Smith
Expert Film Handler

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From: Hackney, London
Registered: Feb 2007

posted August 20, 2010 08:15 AM

What resolution is your machine?

The ideal would be that you capture at a higher resolution than your final output will be, as image stabilization will eat up some of those precious pixels...

...so if you have captured at your final output resolution you're going to have to upscale it back again, which may result in undesirable artefacts.

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Eysteinn Gudni Gudnason
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From: RVK, Iceland
Registered: Apr 2010

posted August 20, 2010 09:35 AM

I have the Mainstream E Telecine Model from Tobin Cinema Systems. It has s-video output. I use a Sony camera to convert it to FireWire and into my Mac.

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Joerg Polzfusz
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Berlin, Germany, Europe, Earth, Solar System
Registered: Apr 2006

posted August 20, 2010 11:00 AM

Hi,

there are several free "deshake"-tools for the PC (e.g. as free plug-ins for the free software VirtualDub and AVISynth)... but for the MAC?! But as you're using the "Pro"-version of Final Cut: Have you tried the "smooth cam filter" that comes with your software?

Jörg

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Eysteinn Gudni Gudnason
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From: RVK, Iceland
Registered: Apr 2010

posted August 20, 2010 11:45 AM

Unfortunately that's only available in FCP6. I have 5 [Frown]

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Winbert Hutahaean
Film God

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From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003

posted August 20, 2010 12:22 PM

Eysteinn,

quote:
EDIT: Do you mean this guy http://vimeo.com/5044466

yes exactly that what I meant.

cheers,

winbert (not Barry [Wink]

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Joerg Polzfusz
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Berlin, Germany, Europe, Earth, Solar System
Registered: Apr 2006

posted August 23, 2010 04:14 AM

quote:
Unfortunately that's only available in FCP6. I have 5

The web says:
"The plug-in is under Video Filters > Video, and called Smooth Cam (FCP 6) or Image Stabilizer (FCP 5)."

Jörg

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Eysteinn Gudni Gudnason
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From: RVK, Iceland
Registered: Apr 2010

posted August 24, 2010 12:27 PM

Thanks ye'all. I'm doing a test in FCP5 right now. I also sent the guy from vimeo an email and he sent me a pdf file of how to get the most out of film transfers.

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Winbert Hutahaean
Film God

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From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003

posted August 24, 2010 01:36 PM

Eysteinn,

when you succeed in doing the transfer would you kindly explain here how does it work. The vimeo guy has done an excelent transfer as well as stabilizing the pictures.

cheers,

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Winbert

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Vern Dias
Junior
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From: Allen, TX
Registered: Aug 2010

posted August 29, 2010 06:34 AM

The deshaker plugin for VirtualDub is my favorite. Search for Deshaker on the internet. However, the learning curve is steep and it's a two step process.

Vern

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