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Author Topic: Old prints (e.g. Ken Films, Marketing, U-8, UFA, etc) that have held color
Osi Osgood
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Well, either that, or they chose the cheaper method and just released them on black and white. Reel Images was a neat company that released some very RARE titles ...

One of which is "Marx Brothers promo reel". This was a full five minute sequence that was never seen in thier hilarious film, "Monkey Business", although they do a different version of it in the film, (this is the scene where they all do Maurice Chevalia impersonations while on the boat!) ...

This reel has all four going to an gaent's office trying to be signed up by him, and proceed to tear apart his whole office. This version of it was actually part of thier stage play from the 1920's, "I'll Say She Is" (maybe Shorty or someone else can correct me on that if I'm wrong) ....

... and, it is an incredibly rare chance to see the Marx Brothers performing some of thier stage work!

I have this, but please note ...

The focus is incredibly soft. Sound is fine. Still, an incredible collectors choice for a Marx Brothers fan, and all due to "Reel Image"!

Sorry to get off track here, folks

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Laksmi Breathwaite
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"Superman" cartoons in Super 8 Sound in B/W? I have one that is great "Japoteurs" it's called. When I was a child I only saw the cartoons in B/W and never in color on my family fish bowl screen TV. It is very hard to find the non color Superman super 8mm. Anyway thanks for talking about them. I do have some great Red Fox films still holding great color.  -
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Winbert Hutahaean
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Northwest Passage
Length: 400"
Released by: MGM Films
Country: USA
Stock: AGFA
Lab: MGM Lab
Date of Print: this the last MGM released so maybe 1982

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Osi Osgood
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Nice looking print there, Winbert!

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Douglas Meltzer
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Slap Shot
Length: 400' version
Released by: Universal 8
Country: USA
Stock: Eastman
Lab: Technicolor

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The Electric Horseman
Length: 2 x 400'
Released by: Universal 8
Country: USA
Stock: Eastman
Lab: Technicolor

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Osi Osgood
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Boy! Both of those prints have faired very well Doug, which isn't always the case with Universal 8 especially, (unless your lucky enough to run into an unfaded batch of the good Kodak SP, like on my "Battlestar Galactica")

Greats screenshots from that "Northwest Passage" as well. One of the great qualities of Agfa, is that it can at times, add a slightly stronger green spectrum to a print, which in most cases, enhances the color and seems to bring it closer to a technicolor feel. I have the part 2 of the German Marketing Digest of STAR WARS, on Agfa, and the color is incredibly saturated and I must honestly say, the facial tones are actually better than what I have on my STAR WARS feature from Derann. It really is lovely to look at.

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James N. Savage 3
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Those look great Doug, especially considering the source (Universal 8).

I heard once that in addition to film stock, chemicals had alot to do with how colors hold up over time. I have a few U8's that arent too bad, like Silent Running (I'll try to get some screen shots up later).

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Winbert Hutahaean
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Close Encounters of the Third Kind
Length: 400"
Released by: Columbia Films
Country: USA
Stock: AGFA
Lab:
Date of Print:

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James N. Savage 3
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Oh yea- Nice one Winbert!

Was it a clam-shell or cardboard box?

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Winbert Hutahaean
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James,, It is in a plain box. I got this from our Greg Marshall. But either carboard or clamshell, it will not tell you the color condition as I have this title on both type of pacging and they have faded as usual.

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Christian Bjorgen
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I have several prints on Eastman that have actually kept it's colour quite well, and especially my WDHM 200' of "Mickeys Trailer", which is as good as new!

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Winbert Hutahaean
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Gentleman Prefer Blondes
Length: 400"
Released by: Columbia Films
Country: USA
Stock: AGFA
Lab:
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Hugh Thompson Scott
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That looks to be a nice print of "Gentlemen" Winbert,the blacks
and flesh tones look very good,mind you the two girls look good
whatever.

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Winbert Hutahaean
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Thanks Hugh.

I got this one too from Greg.

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Elyas Tesfaye
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Hi all,
thanks to Doug Meltzer, our Mr. Moderator Extraordinaire, I am glad to put up these scenes from a digest of Carquake I used to own. Doug wanted to know what all scenes made it into this digest, so I will let the beautiful screen shots tell their story even better, as after all, a picture is worth a thousand words [Smile] !!!

Cheers,
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P.S: More super 8 print reviews coming soon [Smile] ))!!!

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Elyas,

Thank you for the pictures. What a great looking print. Outstanding!

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David Kilderry
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I had my print of Gentlemen Prefer Blondes from new. That blue background behind Marilyn and Jane was once vibrant and bright, alas mine looks a little grey looking now too.

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This Print looks good for its over 30 age FORBIDDEN PLANET Super 8mm Feature 4X600  -
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Joe Caruso
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Alot of sights look good from FORBIDDEN PLANET - Shorty

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Winbert Hutahaean
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Lakshmi, with respect to your FORBIDDEN PLANET, it is not in the criteria of this thread because it was printed after the 8mm heyday (pre 1980)

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Joe Balitzki
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Unless I am mistaken when Forbidden Planet was released on Super 8 the prints were struck on Low-Fade Stock so they should have good color...
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Winbert Hutahaean
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You are right Joe, this thread was created to see that those non low fade prints can sometime have good color too.

The aim of this thread is not to look down the old prints.

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Joe Balitzki
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One thing that definitely helps the old prints hold their Color is the Lab that was used to make them. Careful processing and proper storage can sometimes make for a pleasant surprise upon projection.

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