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Roger Shunk
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Phoenix, AZ
Registered: Nov 2011


 - posted December 06, 2011 11:06 AM      Profile for Roger Shunk   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hello,
I'm new to this and wanted to ask what's the best Screen Fabric to select to project old B&W Super 8mm Films. Matte White or Glass Beaded? I want to make sure I order the right screen for the right films.

Thank you,
Roger

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Steve Klare
Film Guy

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From: Long Island, NY, USA
Registered: Jun 2003


 - posted December 06, 2011 12:01 PM      Profile for Steve Klare   Email Steve Klare   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It's one of those "It depends" kinds of things. A beaded screen gives a much brighter picture than a matte one, but only over a narrow angle of viewing. As the angle the viewer sees the picture from gets larger, the brightness quickly drops off until a matte screen becomes brighter.

If you projected in a narrow room and the screen filled the entire short wall, a beaded screen would be better in terms of brightness because the viewers would be restricted to sitting in front of it. My screen sits on the wide wall of a wide room, so most of my viewers are not close to the axis of projection. I chose matte.

Matte screens are easier to clean than beaded. The fact that when I bought it I had a 3 year old in the house meant I needed to guard against the possibility of chocolate handprints and maybe even crayons. This was a factor too.

I don't know how it happens, since I've never seen it in progress, but once or twice a year a bug gets squished inside when I roll it up. A couple of spritzes of windex and a paper towel sets things right again. (I'm still glad I chose the matte.)

Basically, when in doubt: matte it.

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All I ask is a wide screen and a projector to light her by...

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Adrian Winchester
Film God

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From: Croydon, London, UK
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 - posted December 06, 2011 02:44 PM      Profile for Adrian Winchester     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I doubt if many would say there's a case for using a different screens for b/w and colour. The size of acreen and the light output of your projector might be a factor, though. Nowadays, with digital projection causing an increase in the availablity of screens, you can also obtain very bright high gain screens/material. A friend of mine bought some of the material because he compared it to normal screen material and found it made a big difference, but be warned that it's very expensive.

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Adrian Winchester

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Bill Phelps
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From: USA
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 - posted December 06, 2011 05:49 PM      Profile for Bill Phelps     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Roger...try foam board coated with screen paint.

Bill [Smile]

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Brad Kimball
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From: Highland Mills, NY USA
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 - posted December 07, 2011 05:29 PM      Profile for Brad Kimball   Email Brad Kimball   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm fortunate that I have a big white wall in our living room that the Mrs. hasn't picked something out to hang on yet. For showings elsewhere in the house I use a matte screen. I prefer the matte for the same ease-of-cleaning reason. If you wipe the beaded screen with any kind of cloth - the beads rub off.

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Steve Klare
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From: Long Island, NY, USA
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 - posted December 07, 2011 06:02 PM      Profile for Steve Klare   Email Steve Klare   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
We had some major renovations done a couple of years ago. I lost my pull down screen until that part of the house was finished.

One day my wife was putting some flat white primer on some new wallboard and she made a point of painting me a temporary "screen" about 4 feet by 6 between two windows.

-actually worked pretty well!

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Roger Shunk
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From: Phoenix, AZ
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 - posted December 08, 2011 11:42 AM      Profile for Roger Shunk   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks for all your suggestions but how about "Blackout Fabric Cloth" for screen material?

Roger

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Rob Young.
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From: Cheshire, U.K.
Registered: Dec 2003


 - posted December 09, 2011 06:10 PM      Profile for Rob Young.     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Roger and thanks for your recent email regarding my home cinema; would have replied sooner but have been a bit busy.

The screen is 100% home-made. Basically, it is a 10ft x 4ft hardboard sheet coated with 3-4 layers of matt white emulsion paint, applied with a roller for a smoother finish. I find this ideal for smaller rooms with wide viewing angles and wouldn't spend good money on anything else (although I know many will disagree). I've always built my screens this way and stand by it as way to make a performance sceen at a sensible price, although it does need securing to a wall or solid frame.

The black side and top/bottom tabs are sturdy plyboard covered with black velvet material; I find black velvet the best for absorbing edge of frame light and giving a really crisp border to the image. Basically, I found a fabric supplier who could sell it from the roll and ordered what I needed.

The side tabs basically move on a curtain rail, with the top and bottom tabs movable on slats which can be loosened and tightened, allowing them to be manually moved into position for whatever format is to be shown.

The curtains are home-made too; my other half and my mother spent many happy ( [Confused] ) hours sowing the material to the required lengths and pleating them; we bought the material from the same supplier as the black velvet.

There was quite a bit of planning and measuring to so that it all worked and fitted together properly!

Since the room was re-carpeted at the same time, with the colour scheme being blue off-set with red, we used an off-cut from the carpet to cover our home-made stage and added more matching cutains to the front.

The seat was re-painted with blue hammerite paint to give it a dappled metal look and the cushions re-covered in material to match the red screen curtains.

Before all this, wiring was laid down for the three centre channels of sound and lighting. At the time, we were mostly using film with some digital, but saw the future as digital sound, so decided to play safe and fit 5 channel surround sound; glad we did!

The projector stand is actually a hi-fi stand, made by a british company called Apollo Hi-Fi furniture;

http://www.apollohifi.co.uk/Aria/Aria.html

The stands come in basic packs, I think, and then you add shelves as you require them.

The great thing is that you can order different heights for each shelf to suit your equipment, and because they are for hi-fi, they have dampening rubber feet between the actual shelf and the frame. Primarily this is to reduce vibration in, say, a turntable, but it acts to dampen the chatter of the projector...I've never heard a projector run quieter on anything else.

Now the bad news...they are quite expensive! I think I remember paying over £500.00 for the complete stand and that was over 10 years ago now! But they are solid and a very safe place to put your valuable equipment. But try running a search for hi-fi furniture and see what you can find.

Let us know how you get on building your own home cinema!

Best, Rob.

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