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Adrian Winchester
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From: Croydon, London, UK
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 - posted December 17, 2011 10:33 PM      Profile for Adrian Winchester   Email Adrian Winchester   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Although Canon were one of the last companies to produce Super 8 cameras, I never seemed to see their projectors offered, until I spotted this one on eBay:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CANON-PS1000-DUAL-TRACK-SUPER-8-8MM-SOUND-MOVIE-CINE-FILM-MOVIE-PROJECTOR-1980-/160698827749?pt=UK_Photography_VintagePhotography_VintagePhotoAccess ories&[/URL]

This one (a PS-1000) looks quite impressive and has some unusual features, although it only seems to have a 400' reel capacity.

As they seem so scarce, I wondered if there are any Canon current or former projector owners here and if so, would they rate the projectors highly?

[ December 19, 2011, 07:42 PM: Message edited by: Adrian Winchester ]

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Barry Fritz
Master Film Handler

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From: Burnsville, MN, USA
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 - posted December 19, 2011 11:23 AM      Profile for Barry Fritz   Email Barry Fritz   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have a P8-S Cinestar and it is just an average projector. Nothing special at all. However, it is a much earlier machine than the 1000, and is not a sound machine. I think Canon's strength is in their cameras.

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Janice Glesser
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From: Sunnyvale, CA USA
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 - posted December 19, 2011 12:38 PM      Profile for Janice Glesser   Email Janice Glesser   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I actually have 2 Canon PS-1000's. One I bought new with a Canon 514 XL-S camera in 1979. When my first projector started having problems I bought a second off eBay. I really like this projector. Great lens...stable picture...and decent sound when connected to external speakers. Here is a video I made a couple of years ago when I was just starting to do telecine transfers with this projector. I don't use a wall projections setup anymore...but I still use the projector.

http://vimeo.com/9121730

If you have any specific questions, I'll see if I can answer them.

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John Davis
Master Film Handler

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From: Dunfermline, Fife, UK
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 - posted December 19, 2011 03:38 PM      Profile for John Davis   Email John Davis   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I've written about this seller before (he has very distinctive wallpaper).
He always seems to get bidders to pay way above the perceived normal value and always lists projectors as having variable speed even when this isn't the case - which I think is misleading to the point of deception but he has 100% feedback so obviously no-one cares.

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Bill Brandenstein
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 - posted December 20, 2011 12:55 AM      Profile for Bill Brandenstein   Email Bill Brandenstein   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Adrian, do a forum search for my several posts concerning the PS-1000. It's a remarkable machine but mine is now nearly unusable at about 100 hours' use. Very complicated inside, also, makes an Eumig or Eiki 16mm look like something's missing.

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Janice Glesser
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 - posted December 20, 2011 04:54 PM      Profile for Janice Glesser   Email Janice Glesser   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Bill...You are so right about the PS-1000's engineering complexity. This past weekend my step dad gave me his Keystone K-560. Of course it wasn't working so I opened up the back. I think the picture comparison speaks for itself...but I definitely had the "somethings missing" feeling :-)

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Jon Addams
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 - posted December 20, 2011 05:07 PM      Profile for Jon Addams   Email Jon Addams   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have three Cannon P-1000 each of which was running perfect until the belts gave up. In my opinion, these belts are almost impossible to install without literally taking the machine apart. [Mad] [Mad] [Mad]

I am thinking about selling them as they are, as much as I like the 1000, I am giving up on them!

Good luck to all of you owners of this projector. [Wink] [Wink]

Jon

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Adrian Winchester
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 - posted December 20, 2011 06:17 PM      Profile for Adrian Winchester   Email Adrian Winchester   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks for the very interesting replies. Sounds like the PS-1000 is a mixture of good and exasperating characteristics. If there's no way to install a new belt without major dismantling, I wonder if it might be feasible to try one of those 'home-made' belts where you weld the two ends together - IF it would be feasible to get the belt in position before the ends are joined?

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Bill Phelps
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If that would work it would solve a lot of problems!

Bill [Smile]

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Thomas Dafnides
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"belts that you weld together" ....where are these available?...and has anyone had any success with them?

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Jon Addams
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 - posted December 20, 2011 08:46 PM      Profile for Jon Addams   Email Jon Addams   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It's not only one belt, the Canon P-1000 requires 5 belts and each has its own intricate contours.

Just check the pictures in this thread.

http://8mmforum.film-tech.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=003028

Good luck,

Jon

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Peter McShane
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From: Fayetteville, NY USA
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I have a PS-1000 with no sound. All the mechanicals are good otherwise. Anyone have a parts machine with a working audio section? Thanks. Pete

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Bill Brandenstein
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 - posted January 02, 2012 10:44 PM      Profile for Bill Brandenstein   Email Bill Brandenstein   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Peter, if you get the bottom off of your machine and replace the largest electrolytic capacitors on the audio board, it *might* make a difference!

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