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Matt Hooper
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From: kent
Registered: Jan 2008


 - posted February 15, 2012 01:54 PM      Profile for Matt Hooper   Email Matt Hooper   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi guys

Does anyone have an opinion on 3ccd security camera with FW capture unit vs a 3ccd DV Cam for off the gate telecine?

Any opinions would be great

Cheers
Matt

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John Hermes
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From: La Mesa, CA, USA
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 - posted February 15, 2012 02:19 PM      Profile for John Hermes     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I don't think you can make a blanket statement, one versus the other. I think you need to compare the quality of the two camera heads. Things to consider: chip size, S/N ratio, resolution, color quality, lens quality, menu tweaks such as black stretch, gamma, etc. All other things being equal, larger chips are better. If it is possible to compare the two cameras, I would.

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Martin Jones
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 - posted February 15, 2012 02:39 PM      Profile for Martin Jones     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
There is not any specific reason why one camera should be better than another for "off the gate" any more than one would be better than another for "off the wall" or "aerial image" or any other full frame method. The TYPE of transfer does not affect which camera should be used.
John is right; the only way to evaluate which camera is better for use is by a physical performance test of the ALL the function variants of ALL the cameras.
Making a general prediction comparing UNLIKE devices is very unwise.
Martin

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Matt Hooper
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 - posted February 15, 2012 02:42 PM      Profile for Matt Hooper   Email Matt Hooper   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Sorry, I should of been more specific

My current cam is a panasonic NG-GS230

And I have looking at this

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260912394968?_trksid=p5197.c0.m619#ht_5033wt_778

And a ADVC-55

And wondered if there would be any advantage.

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Janice Glesser
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 - posted February 15, 2012 03:17 PM      Profile for Janice Glesser     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
That Sony security camera looks like it only a 1 CCD model?

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Matt Hooper
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 - posted February 15, 2012 03:21 PM      Profile for Matt Hooper   Email Matt Hooper   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Janice

Yes I'm not sure, is 1/3 Ccd 1ccd ? I couldn't seem to find any listed as 3 Ccd alone,

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John Hermes
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 - posted February 15, 2012 03:30 PM      Profile for John Hermes     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
1/3" CCD is referring to the diagonal size of the chip...1/3". This is a single chip camera. It looks like it's black & white as well. If you are comparing this security camera to your Panasonic NG-GS230, even though it is a consumer model, I would think the Panasonic would perform better.

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Matt Hooper
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 - posted February 15, 2012 03:42 PM      Profile for Matt Hooper   Email Matt Hooper   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yes, the listing is ambiguous for a novice.

I'm not having much luck finding a 3ccd camera on eBay, guess I need to hunt specific models working well for telècine.

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John Hermes
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 - posted February 15, 2012 03:52 PM      Profile for John Hermes     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
You may find good 3-CCD cameras useful for telecine work to be expensive. I use a Sony DXC-390, which is a 3-CCD camera head that accepts c-mount lenses. You could also pick up a used ENG camera and use it with some kind of telecine device that will handle zoom lenses.

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Matt Hooper
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 - posted February 15, 2012 04:03 PM      Profile for Matt Hooper   Email Matt Hooper   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks John, wow the Sony costs a fortune..must be a great camera.

At those prices I am going to stick with my div cam, never knew 3ccd cams where so expensive.

Regards
Matt

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