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Rob Young.
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 - posted July 24, 2013 08:50 AM      Profile for Rob Young.     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I know what you mean, John, but they're only students and when you're that age anyone, or anything a few years older than yourself seems outdated!

Although, I wasn't like that as a student [Roll Eyes] , but that's just me. [Smile]

I think, to be fair to them as film (sorrryyyy...) video-makers, they found an approach and stuck with it and it was nicely executed.

The overwhelming thing I thought is that, despite any reservations about the treatment, it was all handled with dignity towards its contributors and subject.

With their material, they could have so easily made it all look so much more voyeuristic, but I think they walked a fine, but nice line between being visually condescending and presenting something with genuine warmth to it.

Often, that is something sadly lacking when "outsiders" see our gentle hobby for the first time, and, all too often, something that current TV producers in the "real" world fail to even be aware of, let alone have the talent to consider.

I'm gonna give them 78%

[Wink] [Smile] [Smile] [Smile]

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Adrian Winchester
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Having just seen it, I'm surprised that the comments are not more positive, although I acknowledge that appreciation has been expressed here. It's very well made and they do a good job of giving a sense of the whole day in the time available. If I didn't already go to conventions, it would make me want to attend. Sure, we would all have liked a more upbeat tone and some shots of recent releases on the CHC stall would have helped, but the mood is in tune with Keith's remarks, and as he's a long-standing organiser of the event, they were bound to be influenced by him as well as by what they saw.

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Michael O'Regan
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I agree with Adrian. I can't see what the negativity is all about.

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Paul Adsett
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I thought it was well done, and I wish it were a lot longer. It would have been nice to have more of John and Keith, and some comments from the film dealers. I think though that it really got across that there is something special about reel film collecting compared with DVD.

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Maurice Leakey
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quote:
I can't see what the negativity is all about
Perhaps it's a question of age. The students; were students, and produced a worthwhile effort.

But at my age, it's not what I consider a documentary, thinking back to the days of BTF, Shell, etc., whose films I used to show at my Film Society in the 1960s and 70s.

I acknowledge that tastes and styles change, but I'm certainly not saying that I disliked the film.

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Douglas Meltzer
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I think Laura and her crew did a terrific job and it's a lovely little piece. I prefer the first, slightly shorter cut. The pace is a touch slower however it flows nicely and I applaud the editing choice of letting the scenes breathe so that we can linger on the many interesting compositions.

I think using the title card "A day at The 61st British Film Collectors Convention" sets the viewer up to expect something more in-depth and yes, there is a point of view here (as there should be....all good films have one) that differs from the one we as collectors might have. This isn't a promo for the BFCC. It is an enjoyable, polished production and I'm glad Ms. Gaiarsa chose this for her subject.

Doug

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Hugh Thompson Scott
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Doug, I haven't viewed this film, but put myself in the hands of an accomplished cameraman. I look forward to viewing same, if not
on Facebook or some such.

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Rob Young.
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She certainly has a damn good eye for framing.

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Paul Adsett
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Watched it for a second time, and I think it is great. Yanis really expresses the love of film very well. And it was great to see the ever jovial John Bird looking so well. [Smile]

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Yanis Tzortzis
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Thanks Paul, I thought 'well my acting isn't that bad'but then immediately said to myself : how can you call 'acting' your replying to interview questions-especially when it's got to do with your most loved hobby? [Cool]

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Dominique De Bast
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As I using my mobile phone to connect, I haven't watched the video, yet but all the promotion you made of this event, I went on their site, saw the next convention will be in London in October and bought a train ticket. I haven't been to (the so expensive city of) London and intended to go in a foreseen future, so I took this opportunity. [Smile]

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Antonis Galanakis
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Great video
Great presentation

Thank you Yanni

Υ.Γ. Να τσακιστείς να κατέβεις Ελλάδα να σε δούμε λίγο!!! [Smile]

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Dominique De Bast
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Is it true that it will be the last edition ?

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Yanis Tzortzis
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....Kalomeleta Antonh... [Wink]

....what do you mean by 'last edition' Dominique?

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Dominique De Bast
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Well, Yanis, you mentionned in another topic ("Hello from a new member in Greece") about BFCC "sadly the last". Maybe I am misunderstanding by thinking that you mean it will be the last edition.

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James N. Savage 3
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Great short film! And very professional quality as well as interesting [Smile] .

James.

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Yanis Tzortzis
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...indeed Dominique, to my understanding this is the last BFCC as we knew it [Frown] .....

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Adrian Winchester
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I know that in another BFCC thread last year, John referred to a possible "one last try" and this convention was then finalised. So it looks like being the last but I'm not sure if John and Keith have decided that it's absolutely certain that another won't be considered irrespective of how successful this one is.

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Yanis Tzortzis
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...Adrian, I only hope you're right & I'm proven wrong!....

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