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Maurice Leakey
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posted April 04, 2014 06:51 AM

How did Derann package "Adventures Of The Wilderness Family", which was subsequently shortened to "The Wilderness Family". Was it one 400' or two 400'?
It's rather complicated due the fact that they also released "The Further Adventures Of The Wilderness Family" which carried the words "Part II".
I believe that both films were only issued as 400 footers, but I may be wrong.

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Mal Brake
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posted April 04, 2014 07:06 AM

Maurice, I have the original "Adventures of the Wilderness Family" It was issued as two separate parts on 400ft spools. I spliced them together to make a very good 35 minute mini feature.The 2nd part followed on directly so no re-editing (apart from removing the front credits from the second 400ft) was needed.

Even poor old Derek admitted he got a little confused when he released the sequel 'The Further Adventures.....
For the life of me I can't remember if that was a single 400ft version or a two-parter.

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Maurice Leakey
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posted April 04, 2014 09:27 AM

Mal
Did the credits of part 2 say that it was part 2, or did they repeat the credits shown at the start of part 1?

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Mal Brake
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posted April 04, 2014 09:40 AM

It's been over 30 years since I bought them so memory may be playing tricks, but I believe the credits on the 2nd part of the original film were the same as part one.
I wonder if any members here have a Derann catalogue from around that time,late 1979/early 80's? That may provide definite answers to the sequel.

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Maurice Leakey
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posted April 04, 2014 10:11 AM

As members know I have recently purchased a large film collection and am at the moment going through piles of film.

Currently I am examining Wilderness Family.

I have two Derann coloured clam shell cases which are identical "The Adventures Of The Wilderness Family"' there is no printed reference to being two parts, neither is there any numbering; however, a former owner has affixed a sticker to each box "Part 1" and Part 2".

There is a white box marked "Wilderness Family - Part 1", but it contains an 800' spool which holds something over 600' so it can hardly be Part 1.

There's also a 400' plastic case just marked "Wilderness Family - Part 1".

Now, a 400' Derann cardboard box marked "Further Adventures Wilderness Family" with a sticker "Part 2".

Never having seen the film/s or ever owned copies I am at quite at a loss at this moment. I'll guess have to get out a projector to run the lot to see what I have got.

It is quite surprising as I am coming across many repeated titles as I examine everything, it does seem surprising that a collector should possess multiple copies.

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Adrian Winchester
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posted April 09, 2014 07:45 AM

I can confirm that - as I'm implied by Maurice above - that the 'Further Adventures' was also released as two 400' parts (I have both). If you look at some Derann lists/catalogues, you won't see evidence of Part 2 of 'Further Adventures', as it was released some time after the first part. I remember Derek referring to it at a Derann Open Day around 1984 and it represents a very rare example of a Derann 400' released AFTER the start of the 1980s revival. But they may have prepared a master earlier and only decided to release it after things picked up. They also sold nice trailers to both films in the 1980s, which I bought and put on the same reel.

I remember hearing more than once that the prints of one of the films was better than the other, because one used a 35mm master and the other 16. But as I only own the 'Further Adventures' releases, I can't compare them, so I wondered if anyone can confirm which the better one is for print quality?

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Maurice Leakey
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posted April 09, 2014 09:17 AM

Wilderness Family part one is on SP and has the usual fading towards brown.
Wilderness Family part two is on unknown stock and is quite reasonable.
Further Adventures is on unknown stock and has beautiful colour, I only have the one part of this release.

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Adrian Winchester
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posted April 10, 2014 06:27 AM

Maurice - I was thinking in terms of how sharp the picture is, as an indication of which was from the 16/35 masters? Would you say 'Adventures' or 'Further Adventures' has the edge in this respect?

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Maurice Leakey
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posted April 10, 2014 09:58 AM

Adrian
Sorry I can't give any comment on picture quality. They have not been projected. I have a large amount of films in the recent purchase. It seems that it will take forever to show them!

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