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Topic: Hard Days Night Feature Classic Release--Lab defect?
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Tom Photiou
Film God
Posts: 4837
From: Plymouth U.K
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted May 04, 2014 03:02 AM
Alan, im the same with fault marks, on another thread it was asked if we would be happy to pay,(for example, the Captain America release length), over £250.00 for a new release of 600ft, the answer is simply How could I justify that price tag, I think If I bought this Beatles feature and it had this fault within the print I could not accept it. Its also one of the reasons I now only buy the lower end market i.e. trailers, shorts etc. A feature now would have to be a title I really want so much and it would have to be a reasonable price after all, we now see so many faded prints coming along. I really would very much love to buy the new 007 pre title sequence but I ask again,(and bare in mind I am a cine film lover through and through),how can I justify with my household budget, £75 for around 12-15 minutes of an old movie? I imagine these Beatles prints to be several hundreds and they have a built in fault Back in the better days it was easier to buy films as the dealers used to allow you to purchase them over three or six months but these schemes all died a death. Obviously as I have said before, there is and always has been, like all hobby's, a wealthy element to whom price is not an issue, however, in the real world super 8 new releases are pretty much well out of reach to the average chap, if my 6 lotto numbers ever come up then it'll be a visit to all the dealers and buy everything I want,
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James N. Savage 3
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1375
From: Washington, DC
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted May 05, 2014 07:07 AM
Winburt you hit the nail on the HEAD!!
Collectors of any "special interest" items never make sense to people who don't have a passion for that particular hobby (i.e. model train collectors, book collectors, etc.), so we can't talk prices in a way that would make sense to the average Joe on any of this.
With that said, with this particular type of defect on a new print, it appears to be a flaw at the actual film lab, and not on the film negative itself (but not 100% sure on this). If thats the case, it seems that the prints could have just been returned to the lab by the customer (CHC?), who would then re-print the films at no additional cost.
I don't know any particulars on the business end of this, but that seems like the normal chain of events for this type of thing.
But to end on a high note, this problem seems to be isolated to this one particular movie/film, because every print I have bought from CHC/REEL IMAGE over the last few years have been BEAUTIFUL prints with very good sound, so I look forward to see what's next
James.
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Dominique De Bast
Film God
Posts: 4486
From: Brussels, Belgium
Registered: Jun 2013
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posted May 05, 2014 11:36 AM
Winbert and James, you are right about the fact that in many cases a collection costs too much for those who are not collectors themselves. But I think there is a specificity with films : the quick raise of the prices. We all remember that some years ago, when many people rushed to video, they were happy to resell their equipment and films for a song. It is no longer like this and we have to admitt that it is now difficult to buy a good projector and a suffisiant number of films (to be able to project on a regular basis) if you haven't a good budget. Imagine a young collector starting a collection...Most of us have equipment and films for a long time but could you rebuy your collection at nowdays'prices ? I couldn't. I like also to shoot on film (9,5 and super 8) but it has become very very expensive these last years. I will keep on filming as long as I can but I am afraid that the cost of the filmstock will prevent almost anyone who could have been intersted in shooting on film for the first time. When I shoot with a 9,5 or a super 8 camera, people come often to talk to me, most of the time to say they have a camera at home. When I suggest them to use it again, I always get the same answer : too expensive.
-------------------- Dominique
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