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Paul Adsett
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posted July 06, 2014 08:07 PM

Here is a second puzzler - what is it? The winner will receive any available cash from Osi's money tray [Big Grin]

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Steve Klare
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posted July 06, 2014 08:54 PM

Is this the Kodel experimental 16mm film format where four small frames were placed side by side in the same space as a single standard frame and projection was done by zigzagging through the rows?

If I want pennies I'll just turn some couch cushions over!

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Paul Adsett
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posted July 06, 2014 10:03 PM

Sorry Steve, good try. Osi's cash is still safe. [Big Grin]

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Michael O'Regan
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posted July 07, 2014 01:37 PM

Is this some sort of 35mm test film, Paul?

Maybe experimental film?

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David Ollerearnshaw
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posted July 07, 2014 04:18 PM

I seem to recall some film format that was like that for home use. the film film was mounted in a cartridge in a continuous loop and the film stepped down to show the next run.

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Paul Adsett
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posted July 07, 2014 06:17 PM

Still waiting for the correct answer. [Smile]

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Kenneth Horan
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posted July 07, 2014 11:02 PM

Is this it?

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Paul Adsett
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posted July 08, 2014 06:03 PM

Wow Ken rhat is something totally new to me, I have never heard of that camera before. Thanks for putting that up.
However, sorry to say that is not the correct answer to the puzzler, so keep researching! [Smile]

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David Ollerearnshaw
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posted July 09, 2014 02:19 AM

Is it one of those sub messages that you don't see, but your brain registers?

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Paul Adsett
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posted July 09, 2014 07:52 AM

Sorry David, try again.

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Paul Adsett
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posted July 09, 2014 08:00 AM

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Steve Klare
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posted July 09, 2014 08:11 AM

That multiplexed camera is a wonderful idea until the instant the home movie maker decides to edit!

It's kind of the idea of regular 8mm camera film taken a few steps too far: you can't slit the columns images apart because all the interior ones lack sprocket holes. So short of some kind of transfer to a single width film, it is what it is.

Paul,

Is this a film meant to be shown with multiple images on screen at the same time?

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Paul Adsett
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posted July 09, 2014 08:27 AM

Steve,
You, David, and Ken are close, but do not yet have the definitive answer.
There's a friend of this forum in New Zealand who MUST know the answer to this one. [Smile]

NEW PUZZLER RULES
Every time someone takes a guess at the puzzler 2 cents are put into the 8mm Forum coin tray. If the tray has accumulated 16 cents without a correct answer, Osi gets the cash and the answer is revealed. [Big Grin]

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Guy Taylor, Jr.
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posted July 09, 2014 11:51 AM

I have no idea but I'm like Steve in that it is double 8 camera film. This doesn't, of course, explain the double images. I'm confused and I could sure use Osi's money.

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Martin Jones
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posted July 09, 2014 12:34 PM

Double 8 film??? Come on, whatever gives you that idea? It's 35 mm film stock ... and my guess is that it's what was known in the UK as "MiniCine".

http://www.freewebs.com/g1eiobri/

The American version had the same mechanism, BUT a different casing ....

http://www.freewebs.com/g1eiobri/theamericanminicine.htm

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Dominique De Bast
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posted July 09, 2014 01:54 PM

I thought it was a painting or a draw as the perforations don't look reel. But if three other members were closed with their answers, it must not be that. :-(

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Paul Adsett
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posted July 09, 2014 06:38 PM

Martin has the correct answer. What you are seeing is the 35mm film strip used in the British MiniCine projector. A very ingenious device that got 5 minutes worth of continuous motion on the screen from a single 1 foot length of 35mm film running horizontally thru the machine.. The mechanism continously indexed 4 pictures up and down behind the lens, at the same time slowly moving the film horizontally, so what you see is 5 minutes of continous panning motion on the screen. It could also be used for single still pictures. The animation frames were specifically hand drawn for the MiniCine projector:

The pot was up to 14 cents, so sorry Osi, you lose out on this one. [Smile]

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Martin Jones
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posted July 10, 2014 01:38 PM

Don't I get the 14 cents?

OK, save it for me and add it to the other sums I win!

Martin

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Paul Adsett
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posted July 10, 2014 08:42 PM

Unfortunately Martin someone has emptied the penny tray. [Big Grin]

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