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Mark L Barton
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posted November 16, 2015 04:09 PM

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Hello all, I hear about fellow forum members cleaning their films, improving the projected image etc etc. Can any good forum member advise a quality product (2-22, can you still get it?) and where in the UK it might be bought. Also am I correct that a good film cleaner may fill scratches and reduce their appearance?

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Mike Newell
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posted November 16, 2015 05:04 PM

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Hi Mark

2.22 was banned a good 15 to 20 years ago as certain chemical elements were considered toxic or dangerous for use by humans. There are other products out there made in an ad hoc basis but no one seems to know what is in them or whether they are legal. Personally I wouldn't recommend using any of them. A soft clean white cotton cloth or men's handkerchief will remove any dirt or dust without cleaner. None of the products will remove scratches at best they will remove black scratches with green. Some products will also soften splices and some will remove or damage stripe particularly in the later Derann releases.

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Joseph Randall
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posted November 16, 2015 06:02 PM

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Ask 10 people this question and you will get 10 different answers.
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Experience has showed me that it is only necessary to clean a film if it isn't running smoothly through the projector, and only with a cleaner that contains lubricant. I bought a jug of FilmRenew about 15 years ago, and I still have some left. I have always had good results. Prior to that, I had used Vitafilm, but it stunk out the room!

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Paul Suchy
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posted November 16, 2015 06:51 PM

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Joseph: Maybe only nine, because I am right with you! Filmrenew is my favorite now (I used to use Ecco Anti Static until I ran out).

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Joe Taffis
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posted November 16, 2015 07:42 PM

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My favorite was the old Kodak movie film cleaner with lubricant. Too bad they stopped making it long ago. It did the job, was absorbed almost instantly, and covered scratches very well...
I've been using FilmGuard for years now, and recently purchased my 2nd quart bottle. I'm sure it will last the rest of my collecting years. I've been thinking about also trying Filmrenew, but haven't so far...

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Jason Schmidt
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posted November 16, 2015 08:32 PM

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Joe, how do you apply the FilmGuard that you've been using?

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Joe Taffis
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posted November 16, 2015 08:39 PM

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Jason, I spray it sparingly on cotton film cleaning pads which I fold to cover both sides of the film, and hold it between my fingers while winding through my pair of Elmo rewinds [Smile]

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, but there's also Roy Neil's "Film-O-Clean" attachment to consider [Wink]

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Nathan Williams
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posted November 17, 2015 03:56 PM

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I've been trying to find some FilmGuard online, but I haven't been able to find someone who carries it and has it in stock. Where do you purchase yours Joe?

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Mark L Barton
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posted November 17, 2015 04:40 PM

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Thanks guys. So Id better not use Mr Sheen then either?

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Joseph Randall
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posted November 17, 2015 07:17 PM

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I thought FilmGuard is sold on this very site?

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Steve Klare
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posted November 17, 2015 07:39 PM

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The timing here is good. I'm trying to find some myself.

What I am finding is a lot of sellers that used to have it (including one about a mile from here), have gone all digital on us and aren't carrying it anymore.

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Paul Suchy
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posted November 17, 2015 07:43 PM

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I just received Steve Osborne's latest issue and he's advertising Filmguard as well as Filmrenew.

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Steve Klare
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posted November 17, 2015 07:47 PM

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Thanks, Paul!

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Joe Taffis
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posted November 17, 2015 09:01 PM

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I had to get mine from Film-Tech via Amazon...

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Mark L Barton
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posted November 18, 2015 10:07 AM

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Can Filmgaurd be bought in the UK? The old camera company rebottles it in 10mm bottles (but only good for a couple of 50ft runs) I want the 900ml, any details on UK suppliers would be appreciated. Thanks

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James Wilson
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posted November 18, 2015 11:44 AM

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Hi Mark,

I`ve been using Cresclean for years with no side affects, it does a really good job, and is safe on sound films as well. I see you`re in the UK where it`s made, if you want to buy some follow this link, click on Film Equipment, scroll to bottom of page, You`ll find it therer.
http://www.classichomecinema.co.uk/

£8 for a 250cc bottle, I always buy 10, but thats up to you.

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Clyde Miles
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posted November 18, 2015 12:02 PM

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paul foster sells filmguard.

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Joseph Randall
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posted November 18, 2015 06:59 PM

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Lee Mannering
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posted November 19, 2015 09:12 AM

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Film renew for me every time, been very happy with it. [Cool]

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Phil Murat
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posted December 15, 2015 01:05 PM

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Goodmorning,

May be I miss something, but I don't find the answer that I am looking for and on FILMGUARD Web site :

1) Is FilmGuard a Typical DRY lubricant
2) Is FimGuard SILICON Free

Thanks in advance

Phil

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Dominique De Bast
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posted December 16, 2015 12:57 PM

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Hello Phil. What do you mean by "dry" ? Filmguard has a liquid form.

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Phil Murat
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posted December 16, 2015 11:51 PM

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High Dominique,

"Dry" Lubricant means ; once the solvant has evaporated after to be applied; the film is not wet or greasy anymore (as you can feel putting fingers on treated surface).

That could be compare to a very light varnish featuring mehanical qualities against friction effects.

A Dry lubricant do not pick up dusts coming from environment.

Phil

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