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Martin Davey
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- posted September 15, 2016 02:27 AM      Profile for Martin Davey   Author's Homepage   Email Martin Davey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
One of the best sources for Tom and Jerry I know of is this old book from the early 1990s....https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tom-Jerry-Definitive-Animated-Adventures/dp/0517573512.
I would have thought, to be complete, that the remakes would find a place in the collection. Although the story may largely be the same, visually they are quite, quite different, not only because of the cinemascope format but also because the artwork is different.
There also also the question of the two 'Spike and Tyke' cartoons (dog and son). I have a flat version of one of these, 'Scat Cat', with optical sound.

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Panayotis A. Carayannis
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Yes,the Patrick Brion book is by large THE best on the subject. Period. He makes only one mistake. He doesn't mention several cartoons that are in cinemascope, because he had seen only the flat version,and the accompanying pictures are from this one. But for other cinemascopes,and this is silly, the accompanying pictures are aqueezed!
I don't buy "both" versions.I prefer the 'scope ones.For "Southbound Duckling" I had the flat version and then I discovered that the 'scope version was also available.

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Winbert Hutahaean
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So guys, a good news here for me.

Since I posted this thread, I got a friendly email me offering Tom Jerrys that I have not had. So we have just sealed a deal for 9 TJs, they are:

Framed Cat, The 1950
Just Ducky 1953
Mouse in the House 1947
Nit Witty Kitty 1951
Slicked Up Pup 1951
Puppy Tale 1954
Springtime for Thomas 1946
Touché, Pussy Cat! 1954
Two Little Indians 1953

These 9 TJs are now on their way to Indonesia. It will take about 6-8 days to arrive.

So when they arrive, I will revise my list above and it will make my collection to become 111 titles....and by then I will take over my previous position....to be the number 1.... [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

So we'll see...

cheers,

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David Watson
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Hi, Winbert and Jim and others, re: Tom & Jerry,
Hanna and Barbera created 114 Tom & Jerrys,Gene Deitch produced 13 and Chuck Jones made 34,making a total of 161 theatrical cartoons, Winbert you asked me to list my Tom & Jerry's on my previous post I said I had 108 titles,on checking again my list and the collection itself I have found I have a title not on my list namely 'fine feathered friend' a Film Office release.Thus making 109,again on checking my collection some titles are in scope I have 16 in total,,3 of these are scope remakes of earlier flat titles, these are 'Egg and Jerry scope remake of 'Hatch up your troubles' 'Tops with Pops'scope remake of 'Love that Pup'and 'Feedin the Kiddie'scope remake of'The Little Orphan. so some may say that is 106 titles but there again these scope titles were released in their own right,any way here is my list in no particular order....
THE CATS ME-OUCH
LITTLE ORPHAN
DUEL PERSONALITY
JERRY AND JUMBO
MILLION DOLLAR CAT
TENNIS CHUMPS
LOVE THAT PUP
CAT NAPPING
JOHAN MOUSE
POSSE CAT
THE NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS
CASANOVA CAT
TWO MOUSEKETEERS
CAT CONCERTO
TEE FOR TWO
QUIET PLEASE
MOUSE TROUBLE
INVISIBLE MOUSE
MOUSE IN THE HOUSE
DR.JEKYL MR.MOUSE
CRUISE CAT
YANKEE DOODLE MOUSE
SATURDAY EVENING PUSS
MICE FOLLIES
PURCHANCE TO DREAM
JERRY AND THE GOLDFISH
DESIGNS ON JERRY
PUSS GETS THE BOOT
MUSCLE BEACH TOM
THE DOG HOUSE
MOUSE IN MANHATTEN
THE FLYING CAT
DOG TROUBLE
HOLLYWOOD BOWL
FITT TO BE TIED
CUEBALL CAT
BABY BUTCH
MOUSE CLEANING
TRIPLET TROUBLE
LONESOME MOUSE
JERRY AND THE LION
HEAVENLY PUSS
TEXAS TOM
PUTTIN ON THE DOG
DUCK DOCTOR
VANISHING DUCK SCOPE
THE TRUCE HURTS
MOUSE COMES TO DINNER
HIS MOUSE FRIDAY
PROFESSOR TOM
THE MILKY WAIF
CAT FISHING
SOLID SERENADE
BAD DAY AT CAT ROCK
PET PEEVE
THE EGG AND JERRY SCOPE
THATS MY PUP
FRAMED CAT
POLKA DOT CAT
MOUSE FOR SALE
HAPPY GO DUCKY SCOPE
BARBEQUE BRAWL SCOPE
MUCHO MOUSE SCOPE
TOM AND CHERIE SCOPE
ROBIN HOODWINKED SCOPE
PUP ON A PICNIC SCOPE
TOPS WITH POPS SCOPE
BLUE CAT BLUES SCOPE
FEEDIN THE KIDDIE SCOPE
BUSY BUDDIES SCOPE
BABY PUSS
JERRY'S COUSIN
FRAIDY CAT
BOWLING ALLEY CAT
DOWN BEAT BEAR SCOPE
SALT WATER TABBY
ROYAL CAT NAP SCOPE
TIMID TABBY
LITTLE QUACKER
SLEEPY TIME TOM
PUSH BUTTON KITTY
SOUTH BOUND DUCKLING SCOPE
FLYING SORCERESS SCOPE
LITTLE RUN AWAY
PUPPY TALE
TRAP HAPPY
SNOWBODY LOVES ME
MUCH ADO ABOUT MOUSING
MATINEE MOUSE
OLD ROCKIN CHAIR TOM
SLICKED UP PUP
FLIRTY BIRDY
JERRY'S DIARY
HATCH UP YOUR TROUBLES
KITTY FOILED OPTICAL SOUND
NIT WITTY KITTY
PUSS N TOOTS
SAFETY SECOND
LIFE WITH TOM
TWO LITTLE INDIANS
JUST DUCKY
SMARTY CAT
MISSING MOUSE
OF FELINE BONDAGE
NEOPOLITAN MOUSE
THE CAT AND THE MERMOUSE
SPRING TIME FOR THOMAS
LITTLE SCHOOL MOUSE
FINE FEATHERED FRIENDS

Heres a list of'Tom & Jerry's' I am still looking for on super 8 only.
IT'S GREEK TO ME-OW
PENTHOUSE MOUSE
PECOS PEST
TOUCHE PUSSY CAT
HAUNTED MOUSE
THE A TOM-INABLE SNOWMAN
JERRY GO ROUND
FILET MEOW
CALYPSO CAT
O-SOLAR MEOW
PART TIME PAL

I see Winbert by your last post you have gained some of the titles you were still looking for I am glad for you nice one,, looks like you are back on top pal.
Finally Winbert I must say your colourful boxes are great
and very professional...

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Winbert Hutahaean
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David from your list above, you don't have "Neapolitan Mouse" and "Hic-cup Pup" but I don't also see them in your wish list. Perhaps you forgot?

With the additional 9 TJs I got just now, I now need:

1. Duel Personality
2. Muscle Beach Tom
3. Little School Mouse
4. Jerry's Diary 1949
5. Puss 'N' Toots 1942
6. Vanishing Duck 1958
7. Hic-cup Pup*
8. Neapolitan Mouse 1954 *
9. Haunted Mouse*

Any duplicate you have for no. 1-6?

This is my duplicates:

Little Quacker
Kitty Foiled
Design on Jerry
Mice Folies
Purr-Chance to dream
Cat Napping
Little Orphan
Little Runaway
Love that pup
Solar o meow
Flying Sorceress
Jerry go-round
It's Greek to Me-ow
Mouse Comes to Dinner
Fine Feathered Friend (sound erased, can be re-recorded)
Much do about mousing (B/W sound)
Dog House (Col, Silent)
Life with Tom (Col, Silent)

So you can get from my duplicates: Solar o meow and Jerry go-round

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Antoine Orsero
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My super8 Tom&Jerry

VANISHING DUCK
TWO LITTLE INDIANS
TRUCE HURTS (THE)
TRIPLET TROUBLE
TRAP HAPPY
TOUCHE PUSSY CAT
TOPS WITH POPS
TOM AND CHERIE
TOM AND CHERIE
TIMID TABBY
THAT'S MY PUP
TENNIS CHUMPS
SPRINGTIME FOR THOMAS
SOUTHBOUND DUCKLING
SLICKED UP PUP
SLEEPY TIME TOM
SATURDAY EVENING PUSS
SALT WATER TABBY
SAFETY SECOND
ROYAL CAT NAP
ROBIN HOODWINKED
QUIET PLEASE
PUTTIN' ON THE DOG
PUSS N' TOOTS
PUSS N' TOOTS
PUSS GETS THE BOOT
PUSH BUTTON KITTY
PUPPY TALE
PUP ON A PICNIC
PROFESSOR TOM
POSSE CAT
PET PEEVE
PECOS PEST
OLD ROCKIN' CHAIR TOM
NIT WITTY KITTY
NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS (THE)
MUSCLE BEACH TOM
MOUSE TROUBLE
MOUSE FOR SALE
MOUSE COMES TO DINNER (THE)
MOUSE CLEANING
MISSING MOUSE (THE)
MILLION DOLLAR CAT
MILKY WAIF (THE)
LOVE THAT PUP
LONESOME MOUSE (THE)
LITTLE SCHOOL MOUSE
LITTLE RUNAWAY + optical track
LITTLE QUACKER
LITTLE ORPHAN (THE)
KITTY FOILED + optical track
JUST DUCKY
JERRY'S COUSIN
JERRY AND THE GOLDFISH
JERRY AND JUMBO
INVISIBLE MOUSE (THE)
HIS MOUSE FRIDAY
HIC CUP PUP
HEAVENLY PUSS
HATCH UP YOUR TROUBLES
HAPPY GO DUCKY
FRAIDY CAT
FLYING SORCERESS (THE)
FLYING CAT
FLIRTY BIRDY
FIT TO BE TIED
FEEDIN' THE KIDDIE
EGG AND JERRY (THE)
DUEL PERSONALITY
DUCK DOCTOR
DOWNBEAT BEAR
DOG TROUBLE
DESIGNS ON JERRY
CUEBALL CAT
CRUISE CAT
CAT NAPPING
CAT CONCERTO (THE) + optical track
CAT ABOVE THE MOUSE BELOW (THE)
BUSY BUDDIES
BOWLING ALLEY CAT (THE)
BODYGUARD (THE)
BLUE CAT BLUES
BARBECUE BRAWL
BAD DAY AT CAT ROCK
BABY BUTCH
A MOUSE IN THE HOUSE

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Winbert Hutahaean
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Antoine....woooow...

The are 3 titles that I have never known available on Super 8 before. Can you give me more details info (company release, color condition/stock, is title card English etc) for these below titles please:

CAT ABOVE THE MOUSE BELOW (THE)
HIC CUP PUP
BODYGUARD (THE)

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Antoine Orsero
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Winbert,

CAT ABOVE THE MOUSE BELOW (THE)1964 MGM edition faded color
HIC CUP PUP 1954 MGM edition faded color
BODYGUARD (THE)1944 MGM edition faded color

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David Watson
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Antoine,thanks for posting your list of Tom & Jerry which you have in your collection, like Winbert, I did not know that the Tom & Jerry cartoons 'Cat above mouse below' 'Hic-cup pup'
and 'The body guard'were out on super 8,this is what makes the forum so good,you learn all sorts of useful and interresting things. That's another 3 titles to go on my wants list.

Winbert thanks also for your post.I do have 'Neopolitan mouse'its on my collections list 5th from the bottom,
but you are correct about 'Hic-up pup'I did forget that title and it needs to be put on my wish list.
About duplicate titles etc.I will send you an e-mail shortly....Regards Dave.

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Antoine Orsero
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David,

I bought these movies a long time ago.
I also have video with beautiful images and not censored them.

If you do not know I can try to put them on Youtube and send you the links.

Tell me if you agree.

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David Watson
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Hello Antoine, thanks for your post,if you can put them on
'you tube' that would be good, and very interesting.
many thanks in advance.
Regards Dave...

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Antoine Orsero
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David,
OK,

Tomorrow and Sunday I'll be gone! Monday I'll take care of films to put on youtube.

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Jim Schrader
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Antione, you have a few titles mentioned twice do you have doubles or just an accident?

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Antoine Orsero
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Just a accident

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Jim Schrader
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I didn't see zoot cat on anybody's list unless I overlooked it I have it but in 16mm was this ever released in super 8?

[ June 23, 2017, 07:37 AM: Message edited by: Jim Schrader ]

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Panayotis A. Carayannis
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Much intimidated,I am listing here my teenie-weenie Tom and Jerry collection!

SATURDAY EVENING PUSS MGM
CAT NAPPING "
CRUISE CAT "
JOHANN MOUSE "
NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS "
MILLION DOLLAR CAT "
DESIGNS ON JERRY "
CASANOVA CAT "
QUIET PLEASE "
JERRY AND JUMBO "
MOUSE TROUBLES "
TWO MOUSEKETEERS "
LITTLE ORPHAN "
CAT CONCERTO "
TEE FOR TWO "
HIS MOUSE FRIDAY Walton
TRUCE HURTS "
DR JEKYL AND MR MOUSE "
TENNIS CHAMPS "
MILKY WAIF "
MOUSE COMES TO DINNER "
POSSE CAT "
JERRY AND THE GOLDFISH "
LOVE THAT PUP "
MOUSE IN THE HOUSE Derann
BOWLING ALLEY CAT "
HEAVENLY PUSS "
SLEEPY TIME TOM "
FLIRTY BIRDIE "
CUE BALL CAT "
POLKA DOT PUSS "
NIT-WITTY KITTY "
SOLID SERENADE "
PROFESSOR TOM "
OLD ROCKING CHAIR TOM "
SALT WATER TABBY "
DUCK DOCTOR "
TEXAS TOM "
SAFETY SECOND "
MISSING MOUSE "
INVISIBLE MOUSE "
LITTLE QUACKER
TOM AND JERRY IN THE HOLLYWOOD BOWL "
SPRINGTIME FOR THOMAS "
TRIPLET TROUBLE "
DOWNBEAT BEAR Derann cinemascope
SOUTHBOUND DUCKLING " "
FLYING SORCERESS " "
FEEDIN' THE KIDDIE " "
HAPPY GO DUCKY " "
TOPS WITH POPS " "
TOM AND CHERIE " "
ROBIN HOODWINKED " "
TIMID TUBBY Cineavision,Cinemascope
PUP ON A PICNIC "
TOUCHE'PUSSYCAT "
PET PEEVE "
SOUTHBOUND DUCKLING "
MUSCLE BEACH TOM ? Cinemascope
PUSS GETS THE BOOT Red Fox
DOG TROUBLE "
LIFE WITH TOM Film Office
THE FLYING CAT "
TRAP HAPPY "
PECOS PEST Real Film
CAT FISHING "
JERRY AND THE LION ? (italian)
FIT TO BE TIED Steve Villarino (?)
CAT'S MEOUCH "
BABY BUTCH ?

Antoine,CAT ABOVE... is not an MGM copy. They did not release Chuck Jones cartoons.

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Hello Panayotis, thanks for posting your 'Tom & Jerry'
collection it's not so teenie weenie you have 70 or more
that's a good collection I promise you, keep on looking some more will come to light I'am sure

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Antoine Orsero
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( For PANAYOTIS:
CAT ABOVE... well edited by MGM to the movie below.)

CAT ABOVE THE MOUSE BELOW:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttV2YYSAT0s

BODYGUARD:
https://gloria.tv/video/GpUnHTJimsbU46w7zopuYzvyo

HIC CUP PUP:
https://gloria.tv/video/QPJvg8WXJvFr2JFsbsHhfV4xw

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Winbert Hutahaean
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Antoine,

Thanks for your details.

When I am asking company release, I am more asking who released it on 8mm.

I have several MGM releases they have M-xx cat#. Do the three TJ s above also have this cat#?

And how is it packed....in the MGM common box with black bar on the top and colorful picture from the scene on the bottom?

Cheers,

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Antoine Orsero
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Wimbert,

My three films are in white cardboard boxes as these films have been bought second-hand on Ebay

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Winbert Hutahaean
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Hi Antoine...it is inteesting.

I want to know even deeper... pls allow me to ask more.

How is the title card...is it in English title or other languages?

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Panayotis A. Carayannis
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Antoine, I don't know what do you mean by "...well edited by MGM to the movie below..." What I meant was that MGM,or MGM/Ken) did not release the Chuck Jones (or,for that matter the Gene Deitch) Tom and Jerry cartoons in 8 mm. Other companies did.

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Panayotis

When the movie starts there is the MGM logo. Isn't it?

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Winbert Hutahaean
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Antoine...if you have a google account then reupload the same file on google drive and share the link here.

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Antoine Orsero
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YouTube forbade me this video because of the copyright. I place elsewhere and I will keep you informed!

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