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Andrew Woodcock
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Thanks David, most kind. [Wink]

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David Hardy
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Andrew no bother at all. Your welcome. [Smile] [Smile] [Smile]

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Andrew Woodcock
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Here was another Paul, don't know if Kevin still has it or not of course?

http://8mmforum.film-tech.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=002113

I suppose it is possible this one has now been counted in already given the time lapse since then.

It is highly possible it may have changed hands?

I am summizing Osi here, got a hold of his print sometime afterwards

Derann or otherwise, I am certain we would have been made aware if he had it back then. [Wink]

Still working weekends Doug BTW? [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Wink]

[ November 29, 2016, 07:19 PM: Message edited by: Andrew Woodcock ]

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Rob Young.
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Thanks to Michael for looking that up.

I was certain it was an official release!

That original version that Osi owns is certainly a rarity though; personally I much prefer the original edit to the special edition.

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Osi Osgood
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I bought mine from a private collector and since I didn't know of any other super 8 scope features of CE3K, I naturally assumed that it was one of the rare Derann prints (I paid 500.00 at the time, that was a period when i had a LOT more cash at my disposal! [Smile] )

... I was totally floored when it turned out to NOT be the Derann scope feature, but the original 1977 scope feature.

There has been a good deal of speculation about where this print came from originally. One guess is that it's one of the "oil Rig' features that were printed for lads out on, well, oil rigs!

Barry, at one time, many years ago, also had a complete scope feature of "Superman" (late 70's first feature film), in his shop, and no doubt, someone is holding onto that feature like gold, as it is also no doubt, quite rare, perhaps the last one of it's kind in existence!

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David Watson
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Hi Osi,
Iv.e got a copy of the full feature of superman I . I was informed that a certain number of super 8 prints of this were made for the producers of Superman and were given to VIP guests at the American premiere of the film way back in I think 1978.

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Paul Browning
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What a great story David, a great find in your goodie bag at any premiere, sadly I never get an invite.

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Robert Tucker
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So Osi, it's an unofficial bootleg, I'd rather have the special edition. Assuming Derann had access to the original 35mm negs.

I do find with any Super 8 release unless it's been sourced from the original studio neg. And not a neg made from either a 35 or 16mm commercial released print. The quality varies, along with the colour pallett.

I think Jason & The Argonauts was also in the Columbia deal. Now I wonder if the number of prints circling could be similar?

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Rob Young.
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David, I did hear that director Richard Donner ordered several super 8 scope prints for the "production team" at the time of release.

Fascinating...how is your print???

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Osi Osgood
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That is fascinating!!!

I had heard the story of it potentially being a "oil rig' print, but I wonder if, perhaps, Speilberg might have done the same thing for those involved in the making of the film, CE3K?

Perhaps it was an official, unofficial, requested short run of prints?

I don't know if I'll ever know, I'll just cherish it! [Smile]

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David Ollerearnshaw
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I have Jason and the Argonauts from Derann. Great print.

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David Watson
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Hi Rob,
my scope print of superman is still in pretty good fettle still plenty of colour, a bit of negative sparkle here and there its on 5 x 600' reels sounds not quite as loud as my 6 reel version but clear enough, the scope format does make it better though.

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Larry Arpin
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Was waiting to tell my story. I bought this off of Ebay Germany and was recorded in German and mounted on 1000 foot reels. I watched the whole thing in German then had Lance re-record back into english after I got a DVD of the special edition. It is one of Derann's very best releases. I do miss the part where Neary goes crazy and throws everything inside his home.

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Paul Browning
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Thanks Larry. My copy also came from Germany and Ebay like yours it had been recorded into the native language. This confirms also that a few copies went to Europe, but it would seem are coming back one by one. The print quality is as good as the best from Derann I agree and the fact that its not the standard version makes it more special for me.

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Mike Newell
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So from reading the threads above there seems to be at least two sources of CE3K.
One being from Derann before it was pulled and a German import source [Eek!] that always used to magically appear. The German link with Derann would likely originate back as far as the infamous slightly blue Cinema Cinema promo reel which gave some collectors a few red faces.

Makes you wonder did they source a original master and print in Europe then Derann striped and recorded.

This would tie with a memory of a conversation I had with a Derann staff member who offered me Close Encounters long after the initial fuss died down.

I suppose Jurassic Park would be another rare feature release that wouldn't have too many prints around plus how many collectors bought Titanic which was way expensive to buy plus striping and recording costs weren't included.

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