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Andrew Woodcock
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We are constantly reminded nowadays of all the other gauges that exist to collect film on, and at one time here it was clear to see that there were many individuals who only collected films on one gauge or another.

As time has moved along, it appears many of the remaining collectors have branched out into the other gauges over the years and the ones who only collect on one solo gauge appear to be fewer.

As a result of this, my question here today now in this era is...

How many collectors left in this hobby nowadays, only collect Super 8mm film?

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John Armer
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Well I collect 95% Super 8, but I also buy the odd standard 8mm cut down to run on my Bolex, Andrew, so not me!

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Andrew Woodcock
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Thanks John, I perhaps should have termed it as 8mm rather than just Super 8mm as I think most Super 8mm collectors have at one time or another collected or taken home movies on Standard 8mm film as well. [Wink]

You are then John, one such collector I was referring to. [Smile]

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David Skillern
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Well as some of you know - 95% of my collection is Super 8 - features, digests and cartoons - however since acquiring my bell and howell TQ1 - i have 9 features with probably a few more to come this year - especially as i have plans to attend Blackpool again this year.

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Andrew Woodcock
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David, you are not alone seemingly now in this late era of film collecting, where many appear to base the majority of their interest on one gauge or another, but then tag a little bit of something else on the end for titles not otherwise available no doubt.

I know our friend Tom here has always predominately been a Super 8mm collector, but recently has branched out more into the world of 16mm.

I know of a few collectors still who are solely involved with just 8mm or even just Super 8mm, but I don't think there are as many proportionally as what there once were from the posts that I read here and elsewhere.

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David Skillern
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I agree with you Andrew,

for me buying into another gauge was just that - to acquire titles or interesting bits and pieces that aren't available on Super 8 - however I do have to be mindful of space in my den as 16mm is rather bulky !!

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Andrew Woodcock
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Yes David, It is certainly a step way too far for myself.
I can barely cope with the Super 8mm films piling up nowadays! [Big Grin] [Wink]

At the end of the day, for me, it was 8mm formerly and then subsequently Super 8mm I fell in love with at a young age and that for me, will never ever leave me.
I find it provides me with everything I could ever had dreamed of as a means to provide real home cinema in my living quarters.

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Tom Photiou
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My Brother started us off back in 1974 with the P8, so it was standard 8 until around 1976 when we ventured into the Eumig 810, now 99% of our 8mm collection is super 8 with just a handful of STD 8s. I was given two 16mm projectors around 10/15 years ago, i started to gather a few features but then we stopped until recently. The end of Last year we made the decision to get shot of everything except Super 8 but then saw the advantages of 16mm and of course having spent a bit more than i intended two on extra Len's and brackets etc we have now decided to move on some 8mm titles in order to replace them with better quality of film and to look out for around another 4 or 5 16mm features.
We will then try and stick to what we have rather than simply buy for the sake of it every time i see something i fancy.
You do need to get a bit realistic about a hobby, no matter what it is, and for me our recent two features on 16, Kidnapped and Cross of Iron and Poltergeist on super 8 means its time to get a reality check and stop spending. Hence why we will move some 8mm prints on to claw some of this back and of course fund later purchases.
Also have to say, everything may be going wildly out of control on fleabay with prices but the dealers and collector to collector prices are still sensible if one looks. We were prepared to pay for cross of Iron as this was the top of my Brothers list for years ,but even so it was a mint print & by comparison with super 8 features it was a snip. Kidnapped was a superb price from D Guest which is where i will try and source my next few purchases from as far as films are concerned [Wink]
BTW, as David already mentioned, although i do have my own decent size film room 16mm could quite easily take over the space, hence why we only want a mix of 10 maybe a dozen feature films. They will also be easier to keep and eye on and clean etc.

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Kevin Hassall
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I'd started to collect standard 8 not many at the moment though .

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Melvin England
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Interesting topic.

For my part, I was originally 100% Super 8 for many years. Then a Standard 8mm machine came into my possession many years ago and my maximum Standard 8mm collection amounted to 2x 50' home movies that I made in the 1970's when I was given a standard 8 cine camera and wanted to test it (and that is all it has ever taken since then), a couple of those 50' Beatles silent pop films and the 4x 400' version of Laurel and Hardy's "Swiss Miss." That was sold a few years ago so now I ain't got much standard 8 !!!

Dad came home from work one day quite a few years ago and asked "Is this any good to you?"
Considering it was a Bell and Howell Filmosound 16mm projector you can guess what the reply was!!!!
However, today, twenty or so years later, my 16mm collection only consists of about 4 features, 2x long extracts and possibly 6 shorts, so my commitment to super 8 is probably on par with John at around 95+%.

As for dvd and Blu Ray.......... lets not even go there........

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I'm almost exclusively super 8 these days (with the odd standard 8mm title), but i do look for mint condition 16MM or 35MM titles that could possibly be released as a super 8 release, Namely, cartoons.

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Andrew Woodcock
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Interesting Osi. Have you had any make it to print yet on Super 8mm?

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Panayotis A. Carayannis
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Standard and Super 8, only!

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Mark Todd
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A few super 8 and a few more 16mm.

Quite low key though now with the advent of very affordable HD and LCD plus the prices thing too.

Best Mark.

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Andrew Woodcock
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No advent there Mark. It's been around since 97 that I can remember.
Still to this day, it changes nothing. [Wink]

20 years on, it's still the cine projector on the stand far more regularly than the video projector, though both are great admittedly. [Wink]

I think the time away from Super 8mm for me, made me realize just how much the showing and handling of actual film really meant to me.
Projecting only video between the years 98 to 2008 allowed me to raise our kids while screening all the of blockbusters of the day with consummate ease, from Shrek or Chicken Run to Saving Private Ryan or Saw.
The kids and my wife loved it all in those years as indeed I did myself, but somehow there was always that little bit of something missing for somebody like me who loves the entire tactile and workmanlike nature of real film.
You can never entirely put your finger on it but once in the veins, those sprocket holes are there forever! [Wink]

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95% Super 8 right now. A few standard 8 sound and silent, and a small collection of 9.5mm silent vintage films. I have no intention of ever venturing into 16mm or larger film.

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Andrew Woodcock
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Man after my own heart! [Smile] [Wink]

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Quote....

"...but once in the veins,those sprocket holes are there forever!"

How totally and utterly true!

Just a shame that a badly faded print can end up the same colour as the liquid in them!

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Andrew Woodcock
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I wouldn't know Melvin! Meeeow [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Wink]

Only kidding matey, I have plenty that will very soon resemble a bucket of Beetroot, but I must admit, I try and avoid such mistakes now as i made back then. [Wink]

My first Golden Rule of modern day Super 8mm Colour Film collecting...
Never accept one that was printed before 1985! [Wink]
(there are a few exceptions to be fair)

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......or so they tell me!

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Andrew Woodcock
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The Waltons still very often do ok, but then they always did, didn't they?

Goodnight John Boy. [Big Grin] [Wink]

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I started with a 16mm projector. But when a local garage sale had a few 16mm films and also had a few 8mm/Super 8 films for sale, I bought them too--even though I had no Super 8/8mm projector at the time!....
Now, it's a mix of both. Both formats have their own unique advantages, in my humble opinion. At least for me, one benefit of using both formats is that now it doesn't really matter (with a few exceptions) to me what format a particular film happens to be, just as long as it is one that I would like to add to the film collection and it is at a reasonably affordable price.

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By circumstances...but not really by intention, I have been basically 100% Super-8 since 1978.

-a kind friend is at Cinevent this weekend and he's prospecting for a decent 16mm machine for me.

(Ask me on Monday!)

I plugged a video player into my mixer in January and there's still some open jacks!

The week between Christmas and New Year's we set up everything we have (including my son's silent machine), with a little luck (-and some patience from my wife...), maybe we can get all the way to Six projectors this year!

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Greg thats exactly right. Although we are super 8 through and through 16mm does have that overhaul advantage of having a hell of a lot more titles to choose from. With very few exceptions now 8mm films for sale appears to be the same stuff just being recycled now and if something special comes up the prices nine times out of ten are simply a joke. [Wink]

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50% Super 8 and 50% 16mm. Just collecting a few titles that I really want on both gauges, as space is limited.

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