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Matthieu van der Sluis
Master Film Handler

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From: Barendrecht, The Netherlands
Registered: Aug 2017


 - posted April 12, 2018 03:46 PM      Profile for Matthieu van der Sluis   Author's Homepage   Email Matthieu van der Sluis   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have a Sony VPL-VW360ES which is ISF-Calibrated for Blu-Ray 2D/3D and adapted gamma for perfect 4K HDR.
4K UltraHD HDR10 films look absolutely amazing.
Just saw Blade Runner Final Cut on Blu-Ray with this projector and I liked it so much, that I bought the new 4K UltraHD Blu-Ray which is a perfect 4K scan from the 35mm film.
It is really stunning. On my 100% structure free 122" Cinemascope screen, this film is clean and clear, bright with very deep blacks and stunning bright specular highlights. You don't believe you eyes.

Still I really like my Super8 film hobby a lot which my family don't understand and thinks I wasting money.
I do have bought almost all of my old mocvies back.
To me it is like buying my past back and relive it again.
Also I like the cut downs, because you always find time to just watch a short film or two.
Now I'm thinking of buying a scope lens and some full feature films, but,...
Will I regrat the big spending on that?
4K UltraHD Blu-Ray's already are expensive and I can buy a lot of those for the money.
I never had Scope, nor my father, so it is not noostalgic, but it gives a lot of the analogic cinematic experience I think.

I honestly not sure if this is my thing, do you?

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Steve Klare
Film Guy

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From: Long Island, NY, USA
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 - posted April 12, 2018 04:08 PM      Profile for Steve Klare   Email Steve Klare   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
We talk about this a lot here.

To me is it that you're a movie fan or a film fan? You can be either or both (-but what waste to be neither.). If you're just a movie fan then you are in love with the results and you don't need all this complication. Once or twice I've caught myself being purely a film fan, in love with the process: showing films all by myself, I caught myself paying so much attention to the machines I realized nobody was looking at the screen! In the extreme all I'd need is a couple of hundred feet of leader and a blown lamp!

-but I try to be both and get the most out of it, whether enjoying the film projectors or even just firing up the video projector and watching a disk.

As far as what other people think: I'd be a little suspicious of any hobby that makes sense to everybody. What would that be: folding laundry, cleaning gutters, cutting the lawn? (This was Forrest Gump's hobby, actually...)

Day to day life can be pretty routine: why not have the chance to do something that seems just a little bit outrageous to somebody (without running afoul of the law, of course...), even if that somebody is you!

I faced the "why do you do that" question a few months ago. The answer is easy: because I like it!

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All I ask is a wide screen and a projector to light her by...

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John Armer
Expert Film Handler

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From: Lancaster, UK
Registered: Jan 2015


 - posted April 12, 2018 04:51 PM      Profile for John Armer   Email John Armer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Great summary, Steve. I think film is to digital projection what LP is to CD... it has more of a connection to us... you can see the mechanics of the playback working. Matthieu, I completely get that you have a stunnng 4K set but still like to project film... get that scope lens and enjoy the show!

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Bill Brandenstein
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I enjoy handling film. I also enjoy a stunningly perfect presentation. There's no problem if the two aren't married. One of the great advantages of film (in addition to the others already mentioned) is the "retro" experience you can provide for people when you show classic cinema and comedies in the mode they were intended to be seen: from real film, and with a crowd, which enhances the humor tremendously. So a program of Laurel & Hardy titles doesn't have to look like "Ready Player One" at Dolby Cinema, but a good time will be had by all, including me, the projectionist.

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Matthieu van der Sluis
Master Film Handler

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From: Barendrecht, The Netherlands
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 - posted April 13, 2018 01:07 AM      Profile for Matthieu van der Sluis   Author's Homepage   Email Matthieu van der Sluis   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
("In the extreme all I'd need is a couple of hundred feet of leader and a blown lamp!")
Steve, that is actually true for me too hahaha.

Maybe that is why I never had problems with sticking to cutdowns.
The bigger magic of seeing a colorfull, clean and sharp Derann I've never expperienced.
The thought of paying €300 or more never came up to me, till I found this forum.
THANKS A LOT!!!
Since than I spend a whole lot of money on projectors film with no end hahaha.
Now I'm even thinking of going scope.

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Oliver F. R. Feld
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From: Berlin, Germany
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 - posted April 13, 2018 01:16 AM      Profile for Oliver F. R. Feld   Email Oliver F. R. Feld   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Matthieu
Go Scope; You won’t regret it

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