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Topic: Best S8 sound editor with bright screen.
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Kev Morrison
Film Handler
Posts: 76
From: Land of the Mouse, USA
Registered: Feb 2018
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posted November 11, 2018 09:23 AM
Matthieu,
I think my question (if I were you) would be...
What is most important to me in a viewer/editor?
I have several editors, and I have my favorites, but no one editor is perfect.
The viewer/editors that I have:
Elmo 912 - easy to use, so-so dim image with lots of flickering, a workhorse for editing.
Goko RM-3003 - easy to use, so-so dim image with lots of flickering, very similar to the Elmo (no surprise since Goko made the Elmo) BUT, it has an electric drive. Priceless for someone like me with a cranky rotator cuff, and had a ton of Super 8mm to edit & splice!
Elmo S5 - a huge leap in viewer image quality, probably because of the glass (instead of plastic) lens, the viewing lens is smaller in area than the Elmo & Goko, and perhaps the internal mirrors are higher quality (don't know this for sure). If your can turn the take-up reel crank at the right speed, the image shown the viewer can approach near movie quality. The downsides to the S5 are that, for me, a bit more difficult for manipulating film in editing, and the capacity of the take up arms is limited to 400ft reels. Now, there is a 'mythical' Minette S5 600 that can handle 600ft reels, but I've never seen one except in Minette advertisement flyers. Nevertheless, the Minette S5 will remain when I start reducing my collection of Super 8mm equipment.
So, Matthieu, you need to consider what is most important to you in a viewer/editor. My experience is limited to the more popular editors with no sound editing capability, and maybe there is that 'best' viewer/editor for you. I'd guess that your choice will be a compromise in what you want for your use.
[ November 12, 2018, 01:07 PM: Message edited by: Kev Morrison ]
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Luigi Castellitto
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 715
From: Campobasso, Italy
Registered: Jun 2013
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posted November 15, 2018 05:08 PM
I subscribe every word spoken on the Goko Rm8008. I have the equivalent Erno and, despite it's the top of the editors, has a DARK screen. Winbert is right, you have to get in that position, otherwise you see very little.
Then, in addition to the problem of the shaky image that often happens, it's also very sensitive as regards the audio, on the splices.
I opened the thread on the problem of the shake, then I solved buying same Erno, broken, but with working optical bench, and I replaced it.
If the Goko/Erno has the shaky image is unusable, it's a not inconsiderable defect.
I also agree with the brightness of those Minette S-2, I, in fact, have a Minette (small screen but very clear and very defined, almost like a projector) for the darkest films, and the Erno for the brightest films and for the audio editor.
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Matthieu van der Sluis
Master Film Handler
Posts: 373
From: Barendrecht, The Netherlands
Registered: Aug 2017
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posted November 22, 2018 07:51 AM
I just boughtr a Goko RM8008 from the marketplace for €32.
This viewer is amazing.
You have a large sturdy and heavy rewinder as well.
It's so easy to clean my films with Filmguard now.
I love the bright screen and having sound.
It's so easy to put your films on it or from it halfway, because of how the system works.
Can Someone tell me where I can mark the film, for splicing?
Or is my RM8008 incomplete, see picture?
It already misses the left record knob.
On my Goko MM1 I have a very easy system for that, not sure if I can put it on this Goko RM8008.
Another thing it does,...
About 4 times a second it wows a bit darker, like it adds the old film effect you see in movies sometimes.
Is this the NF system or is something else wrong?
Seems to me, if it is the NF, shouldn't he do this 24 times a second?
PS. Something to remember.
Splicing films together is a problem after adding Filmguard, since it won't stick anymore. I had to clean it off with a alcohol tissue for glasses. I did this with the ends of both parts (12 frames or so), and after splicing togetrher, I added Filmguard again and cleaned it.
[ November 22, 2018, 03:34 PM: Message edited by: Matthieu van der Sluis ]
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Luigi Castellitto
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 715
From: Campobasso, Italy
Registered: Jun 2013
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posted November 22, 2018 05:11 PM
Matthieu, the RM8008 DOESN'T have a tip to mark the film. Strange for an editor of this level, eh ? I remember that the manual said to do it with a pencil (I would do a scan, but I do not have a scanner. However, if you need a particular page I see if I can do it at work.).
I have to pay attention to a 4fps you say, because I don't remember.
I see if I have the knob that you are missing, if I have it I can send it to you, but consider whether the cost of shipping is worthwhile (Italian post is a bit expensive).
I noticed another thing: if you look at your editor compared to the others, you will notice that your two volume knobs are not gray but black. This is because it's evident that on your editor previous user had an accessory that, with an oring, kept the two volume buttons connected, to make them go to the same level. But it's not a problem, you can use those buttons very well.
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