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Kev Morrison
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From: Land of the Mouse, USA
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 - posted August 23, 2018 01:16 PM      Profile for Kev Morrison   Email Kev Morrison   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Folks, it looks like I may be the family-designated converter of Super 8mm film to digital, and it may involve a few hundred reels. Lot of work ahead of me, and some films will need some editing and repair..

I'm currently using an Elmo 912 editor viewer, and am well aware of it's limitations (ex, flicker) - it's generally OK for use. I'm considering purchasing an editor viewer with the "NF System", and a motorized drive.

My question: is the "NF System" as good as some people have stated, or is it not worth buying to replace my current over my current editor viewer? Yes, I know that there are those among you that consider the differences between one viewer editors to another aren't significant, while others feel differently.

I'd appreciate your thoughts & comments!

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Nantawat Kittiwarakul
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From: Rajburana, Bangkok, Thailand
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 - posted August 23, 2018 10:24 PM      Profile for Nantawat Kittiwarakul   Email Nantawat Kittiwarakul   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Disclaimer - I only heard of,but never handle those non-flicker myself before.

The obvious advantage.
1.less eye strain in prolonged use
2.probably more suitable when viewing/editing sound film. [Wink]

The potential advantage.
- Possibly modified to be used as film scanner that could be totally compatible with any kinds of camera regardless of frame rate difference,due to the use of prism.
Take a look at,for example Goko TC20. That looks much like a viewer with modified optics to make it a "telecine player".

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Winbert Hutahaean
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 - posted August 24, 2018 04:53 AM      Profile for Winbert Hutahaean   Email Winbert Hutahaean   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have Goko 5005(?) series NF system. My own review the NF system is actually inter-lapsing between the frames done by the prism mechanism. I don't know if it is correlated with the prism but the editor screen is quite blurry. There is no such better way to transfer 8mm other than by scanning.

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Will Trenfield
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 - posted August 24, 2018 04:20 PM      Profile for Will Trenfield   Email Will Trenfield   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I didn't use an editor when I converted our family films to digital a while ago. Each film was captured as it was, without any editing, and saved to a hard disk. I then used Virtualdub to edit each file.

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Luigi Castellitto
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 - posted August 26, 2018 06:28 PM      Profile for Luigi Castellitto   Email Luigi Castellitto   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I am someone who pretends a lot from editor viewer, I always look for an accurate vision.
I have an Erno RE-904 NF (European versione of Goko RM-8008), that have NF system, which should be the best editor ever for the Super 8. I can confirm it only in some respects: the NF system really makes the image smoother, but the screen of this model has a brightness too low for my taste.
It has some amazing audio functions, but its magnetic heads are great, but sometimes they could create fluency problems with sound.
To test sound films there is nothing better on the market, but for silent films I think that others, like the Minette, have a brighter and more defined screen.

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Kev Morrison
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 - posted September 03, 2018 09:43 AM      Profile for Kev Morrison   Email Kev Morrison   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks to all for posting your thoughts on the NF viewers.

It seems that the NF system greatly reduces the flicker seen on traditional viewer editors, however, you lose some noticeable brightness in the process. If it was a Minette S5 with a NF system, it probably could continue to project a reasonably bright image.

So - unless I stumble across a NF viewer editor for a great price, I think I'll stick with my trusty Elmo 912 and Goko 3003.

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