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Alejandro Olivera
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 - posted April 11, 2019 04:48 PM      Profile for Alejandro Olivera   Author's Homepage   Email Alejandro Olivera   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hello everybody.... greetings from Buenos Aires, Argentina.
A while back I inherented my father’s collection of home movies.
In the 1960's my father was shooting silent 8mm film.
After the film was developed he would add sound by putting a brown liquid on the side of the film. I don't remember how it worked but you could put sound to the silent film. My father would add music, dialog or funny noises. But with time the brown liquid made the film very brittle.Now I want to transfer it to a digital format.
Does anybody have a suggestion on how to deal with this?. I don’t care about the audio, just want to recover the film.
Many thanks, I love this forum.

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Joe Taffis
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 - posted April 12, 2019 09:16 AM      Profile for Joe Taffis   Email Joe Taffis   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Treating the film with a lubricant/cleaner like Filmguard would help; if you can get it shipped to where you are...

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Douglas Meltzer
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 - posted April 12, 2019 09:23 AM      Profile for Douglas Meltzer   Email Douglas Meltzer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Alejandro,

I agree with Joe. Take a test section and soak it for a few days in a lubricating solution (such as FilmGuard). That could soften it up enough for one attempt at digitizing before it reverts back to its brittle state.

I've asked a Forum member who specializes in archiving and preservation to check out your question.

Doug

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Alejandro Olivera
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Thank you both to Joe and Douglas for the quick response.
I have to look into getting my hands on that FilmGuard liquid.
Thanks again.
Alex.

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David Michael Leugers
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 - posted April 16, 2019 11:20 PM      Profile for David Michael Leugers   Email David Michael Leugers   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have had good results putting the film on a metal reel and soaking it submerged inside a metal film can containing FilmRenew for at least two weeks time. Really bad film I first try the same type of technic but instead of liquid FilmRenew, I place Camphor crystals inside the can. I use stainless steel washers or something similar to raise the reel up slightly from the bottom of the can so that the vapors of the camphor can rise up through the film. This process makes the film pliable again. Be very careful using camphor and follow all precautions. I follow up with treatment with FilmRenew. Good luck.

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Alejandro Olivera
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 - posted April 17, 2019 10:33 AM      Profile for Alejandro Olivera   Author's Homepage   Email Alejandro Olivera   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thank you very much David for that info.
I will keep that in mind when it comes to do the actual “restoration”job.
All the best.
Alex

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Osi Osgood
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 - posted April 17, 2019 11:22 AM      Profile for Osi Osgood   Author's Homepage   Email Osi Osgood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Mix it with peanut butter ...

... and make peanut "brittle".

(I'm in a silly mood) [Smile]

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