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Osi Osgood
Film God
Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted February 21, 2012 01:29 PM
Well, it's certainly not a "shrink wrapped" or cellophaned brand new print, as those are not the "vintage" reels it was sold on.
But then the reels aren't all that important, of course. I'm always fascinated as to just how much these end up going for, (STAR WARS, that is), as it can get rather silly. I'm not complaining, my extra print went for a thousand and of course, we know of one lucky seller who got 1,700 or so for his!
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Osi Osgood
Film God
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted February 21, 2012 01:38 PM
Two very imnportant factors, which no other super 8 print can say ...
1. It's STAR WARS
2. It's Star Wars!
OK, that doesn't explain it.
The main reason why is the "cross-over" value.
While most super 8 prints would only appeal to Super 8 col-lectors, (duh!), STAR WARS appeals to a much wider audience of collectors.
Many a STAR WARS fan, even if they don't even own a super 8 projector, are willing to bid this title up, just to say that they own an actual film print of they're beloved movie. I can understand that, and appreciate it, (as I have, of course, profited by it.)
... and that's why people who own super 8 are befuddled when they think, "Oh Goodie! I can sell "Seven Brides for Seven Brother", for a thousand, onlt to see it sit on ebay forever.
Other super 8 prints will never have the resale value that STA WARS has.
In truth, the Super 8 STAR WARS feature is just about the only (or perhaps one of the few) that actually is worth more than when it was first printed, even when comparing pound for pound from back then!
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Osi Osgood
Film God
Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted February 22, 2012 01:08 PM
I like the blacks in some of those shots, (the shot with the DeathStar, for instance). Some prints, as commented on before, will have a bluish tend, which affects the space. When I compared the two prints I roginally owned, one had a slightly bluish cast, and that's the one I parted with. People who don't really know color quality and saturation wouldn't give a rip ...
but hey, I'm "preaching to the choir" here! With a title like this, you want as perfect a color saturation as possible.
By the way, I have seen a few prints that have been slightly too green in thier color as well.
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Rob Young.
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1633
From: Cheshire, U.K.
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted February 22, 2012 04:09 PM
Wow, we're giving this seller a hard time.
He listed it at 0.99p
Sorry, but that does look like Derann shrink wrap, spilt edges and all.
Osi, sorry to disagree (again; honestly, I'm not trying to make a habit of this) but those are vintage Derann spools. They're Grasso spools surely?
Now the original print run were generally on white Grasso spools, but Derann often mixed black / white spools, and I've received many a brand new feature from Derann on a complete variety of spools!
The writing on the spools in white marker on black / black on white is exactly as Derann would have marked them...maybe the guy is also a hand writing fraudster.
The fact that Pt.2 looks different isn't necessarily worrying, as often print runs had issues from reel to reel, which could have resulted in replacing reels before packing.
Of course, it could be a totally dodgy print made up from all sorts, but the screen shots look ok and the asking price seems fair...the fact that it has rocketed up to nearly £200.00 is in the hands of the bidders.
I wouldn't like to get riiped-off, but I see nothing inherently wrong with this guy's listing.
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Rob Young.
Phenomenal Film Handler
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From: Cheshire, U.K.
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted February 23, 2012 02:57 PM
No, I don't think he is either; it certainly isn't a first print run as these were in separate 600ft boxes, but it could still be a later run.
Reel 2 had problems right from the beginning. I had to change my first run print reel 2 twice before it was ok back in 1989, so the fact reel 2 is on a different colour spool MAY not be a problem - that certainly looks like original Derann markings on it.
Later prints did suffer from more negative damage, but this print may still be alright and given the original asking price, may still prove to be an enjoyable bargain for someone.
Of course it may be a duffer also...if anyone here wins it, please let us know!
Osi, up until about 10 years ago, I agree Derann prints were supplied on uniform spools, but I've had features since that were supplied lab new on all sorts of different spools.
"The Reptile" springs to mind, lovely new print ordered especially and brand new but supplied 5 x 400ft on all sorts of different spools!
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