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Flavio Stabile
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From: Roma, Italia
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posted September 09, 2012 11:29 AM

Hi all, I'm loooking for the Derann Disney feature

- FUN AND FANCY FREE (3 x 600ft.)

has anyone a copy in good condition to sell?

thanks
Flavio

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted September 09, 2012 07:48 PM

I never knew this title released by Derann nor offered in second hand list.

According to IMDB, this contains two separate stories: "Bongo," about a circus bear escaping to the wild, and "Mickey and the Beanstalk," a take on the famous fairy tale.

So basically Derann can sell them separately. Why they did not do this?

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Flavio Stabile
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posted September 15, 2014 02:07 PM

Still looking....

Anyone?

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted September 15, 2014 03:44 PM

It was just sold not too long ago

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181500388072

For a price that I think is very cheap for today's standard (US$86)

You have just missed this opportunity Flavio.

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Andrew Woodcock
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posted September 15, 2014 04:04 PM

It wasn't a Derann print for that price as seller Gary formerly of Derann explained for those who inquired.

I would have thought that was fairly obvious really Winbert at the price it sold for!

[ September 16, 2014, 05:23 AM: Message edited by: Andrew Woodcock ]

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Flavio Stabile
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posted September 16, 2014 03:19 PM

Hi WInbert, yes I missed it... I never saw it but no problem, as the seller says it is not a Derann print and I will continue to search for it!

HI Andrew, what do you mean with "as told by Gary himself, Derann didn't issue this movie"? The title is still present in the old Derann website...

http://derannlists.co.uk/derann/8c.php

So what do you mean?

Flavio

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David Ollerearnshaw
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posted September 16, 2014 03:46 PM

Its the one I bought, will be watching this Friday I hope, so will give report. Though I'd seem mention of no balance looked at one reel I THINK? it was there,but very narrow.

By the way this is on 4x600ft so not polyester.

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Andrew Woodcock
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posted September 16, 2014 04:53 PM

Don't particularly understand your question Flavio? I shall try and get my point across in as plain English as I can then hopefully you will understand my post.

The one Gary sold to David was stated as being a non Derann print.
This does not mean that Derann didn't release this title because as we all know and your link highlights the fact that of course they did. It is just that wherever this one came from that Gary sold, it wasn't Derann.

[ October 03, 2014, 11:56 AM: Message edited by: Andrew Woodcock ]

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Flavio Stabile
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posted September 17, 2014 01:38 PM

Andrew, sorry!
Of course I misunderstood your answer which is now clear...

Thanks for your reply!

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Graham Sinden
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posted September 17, 2014 06:19 PM

I saw the Ebay advert for the film Gary sold and I assumed that it was an Italian print stuck in a Derann box. I know there are a lot of Italian bootlegs of Disney features and most are on faded stock.

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Flavio Stabile
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posted September 18, 2014 02:17 PM

hi Graham, yes there a lot of Italian bootleg prints, not all of real good quality, but some of them are very rare...

This title is the italian "Bongo e i Tre Avventurieri", but as far as I know, it was 6x400ft and not 4x600ft...

Of course, it could be re-spooled and perhaps David could tell us more after his projection in the week-end.

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David Ollerearnshaw
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posted October 04, 2014 05:19 AM

Sorry but not had time to watch yet, due to some very dusty building work going on. Its that bad even the TV is like watching a tenth generation pirate print.

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Oliver F. R. Feld
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posted October 04, 2014 10:49 AM

Hi,
the DERANN print is on 3x600 reels,
but reel three is barely half full.
The print itself is very good.

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Osi Osgood
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posted October 04, 2014 12:48 PM

The number of reels doesn't necessarily provide proof as to whether a film was a Derann issue or not, as Derann would often release prints Disney or otherwise ut the running time of each individual reel as provided to them, or the original amount of film per reel upon original release, or as provided by the negative they either acquired or was provided to them.

I think you see that with the "Fantasia 2000" as well as the original Fantasia.

Am I wrong in that statement? Possibly.

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Panayotis A. Carayannis
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posted October 05, 2014 02:40 AM

Many italian and spanish companies released their films in 600 ft reels that contained only 400 ft of film.So,if a full length feature was released in 5x400 in other countries,it was 5x600 in Italy and Spain.

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Flavio Stabile
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From: Roma, Italia
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posted November 25, 2014 02:28 PM

FOUND!!! :-)

The Derann print and it's fantastic in colors!
I would say that with Beauty and the Beast and Alladin is one of the best Disney prints from Derann I have seen so far...

[ November 26, 2014, 04:50 AM: Message edited by: Flavio Stabile ]

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Andrew Woodcock
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posted November 25, 2014 02:50 PM

Well done Flavio for finding the proper version.Enjoy!

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