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William Fleming
Master Film Handler

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From: United Kingdom
Registered: Jul 2011

posted October 27, 2014 10:40 AM

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Derann-8mm-Release-Film-STAR-WARS-Part-1-Super-8MM-Colour-Sound-Scope/141451225222?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE% 26ao%3D1%26asc%3D25400%26meid%3Dd35e73bdbd7047798f268098655623cd%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D10670%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D141451294978&rt=nc

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Derann-8mm-Release-Star-Wars-Part-2-Super-8MM-Colour-Sound-Scope/141451294978?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao% 3D1%26asc%3D25400%26meid%3Df78a2ebf9bca408c9cf8122bbf4e9dca%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D10670%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D141451225222&rt=nc

This is in scope parts 1 and 2 could someone let me know what copy this is thannls

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Ferran Gimenez
Film Handler

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From: Barcelona, Spain
Registered: Mar 2008

posted October 27, 2014 10:59 AM

Hi.
It's the Derann full length feature put in two 1200 feet reels.
Or so it seems...
Regards.

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John Fields
Junior
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From: Knoxville, TN, USA
Registered: Oct 2014

posted October 27, 2014 12:32 PM

The same seller has this as well.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Derann-8mm-Release-The-Empire-Strikes-Back-Super-8MM-Colour-Sound-Scopoe-/141451359641?pt=UK_Films_Film_Stock&hash=item20ef287599

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Nigel Higgins
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Saffron walden.united kingdom
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posted October 27, 2014 12:42 PM

if all is what seems for the star wars feature how much is it worth ???

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William Fleming
Master Film Handler

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posted October 27, 2014 02:01 PM

Nigel will be worth what people will pay for it i think. Some go for silly money these days.

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Osi Osgood
Film God

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From: Mountian Home, ID.
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posted October 27, 2014 02:02 PM

That reminds me probably one of the rarest STAR WARS films, a very rare 3X400ft scope "digest" of "Return of the Jedi" It consisted of reel one and the last two reels of the film. The color or sharpness wasn't as good as the Derann print, but it's certainly a rare scope piece of STAR WARS history.

I think someone on this forum has a print of that lying around somewhere.

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William Fleming
Master Film Handler

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posted October 27, 2014 02:50 PM

Most i have is a full trailer for Return of the Jedi at end of my Empire Strikes back 800ft digest. It is a nice one though [Smile]

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Chris Ballantyne
Junior
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From: Newcastle Upon Tyne, UK
Registered: Oct 2014

posted October 28, 2014 06:27 PM

Would an Elmo ST-1200 M O projector be able to play this film with full sound?

As far as I'm aware, this version only reads one magnetic sound strip (or optical sound). I've never played any film with sound, so I'm quite new to this and I'm not entirely sure how the sound system works, apart from there being two magnetic strips on either side of the film.

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Pasquale DAlessio
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From: Bristol,RI, USA
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posted October 28, 2014 06:42 PM

The 1200MO will play one magnetic track. So it will be mono. I have the same projector.

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Chris Ballantyne
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From: Newcastle Upon Tyne, UK
Registered: Oct 2014

posted October 28, 2014 06:50 PM

Ah right, I thought that would be the case.

I'm guessing the sound wouldn't be as good as if it was played on a projector that read both sound strips then? Like an Elmo ST-1200 D M?

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Jon Addams
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From: New York, NY, USA
Registered: Apr 2007

posted October 28, 2014 07:36 PM

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"I'm guessing the sound wouldn't be as good as if it was played on a projector that read both sound strips then? Like an Elmo ST-1200 D M?"

Hello Chris,

The Elmo ST-1200 D DOES NOT play both tracks, it will only play the main track - The ST-1200 D is not a 2-track machine like the ST-1200 HD M

Jon

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Adrian Winchester
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From: Croydon, London, UK
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posted October 28, 2014 11:18 PM

Whoever wins Part 1 won't be happy of someone outbids them on Part 2, however unlikely that may be!

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Chris Ballantyne
Junior
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From: Newcastle Upon Tyne, UK
Registered: Oct 2014

posted October 29, 2014 06:33 AM

quote:
Hello Chris,

The Elmo ST-1200 D DOES NOT play both tracks, it will only play the main track - The ST-1200 D is not a 2-track machine like the ST-1200 HD M

Jon

Ah yes, I meant that one, missed the H off though! [Smile]

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Andrew Woodcock
Film God

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From: Manchester Uk
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posted October 29, 2014 08:40 AM

Adrian has an excellent point there, I am never a fan of individuals who sell complete features in separate reels/ parts, unless of course, the feature is incomplete to begin with.

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Osi Osgood
Film God

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From: Mountian Home, ID.
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posted October 29, 2014 12:35 PM

I think it's just a clueless ebay seller. [Confused]

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Jon Addams
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: New York, NY, USA
Registered: Apr 2007

posted October 29, 2014 01:09 PM

Those listings confuse the heck out me and I am trying my absolute best to understand them.

The seller writes to following in the description:

"However, as mentioned in the "item condition" description I have neither the skill or knowledge to have run the film to check it"

Yet...

The seller is an active member of this film collector's forum since 2011, and his profile lists FILM as one of his topics of interest!!! [Confused]

What am I missing? [Confused]

Jon

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Nigel Higgins
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From: Saffron walden.united kingdom
Registered: Jun 2014

posted October 29, 2014 01:17 PM

Dont know jon ,but he knows what he has here as i did him a very good offer and he said no ,also says in add he has no idea what its worth ,i can see this going for silly money a 100% DERANN box on original reels went for £450 recently so lets see where this goes also the other thing is was only £379 new form derann i know some hold their value i guess this is one of them .

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Chris Ballantyne
Junior
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From: Newcastle Upon Tyne, UK
Registered: Oct 2014

posted November 03, 2014 06:42 AM

Sold for £736 all together... Wow.

It seems they went to seperate bidders too, surely if you hadn't won the first one, you wouldn't go for the second one?

Odd.

[ November 03, 2014, 07:44 AM: Message edited by: Chris Ballantyne ]

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Paul Browning
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From: West Midlands United Kingdom
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posted November 03, 2014 10:55 AM

That's a lot of money for an incomplete feature, especially this
one,that does turn up quite often. There's going to be some sensitive negotiation between the two parties to get the other part, I hope it wasn't done out of spite to stop someone getting the whole film and there will be a successful outcome. Star wars
has certainly been a good investment for those deciding to sell it at a later date, don't think any have gone unsold, it just the price is all over the place, that's Ebay auctions when the bidding goes mad.

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Nigel Higgins
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From: Saffron walden.united kingdom
Registered: Jun 2014

posted November 03, 2014 12:52 PM

Real mad price especially as the seller said its sold as seen and has not viewed it ,could be scratched to death or not evern the right film and buyer cant do a thing about it 700+ is way over the top a much nicer one went for £450 a couple of weeks ago ,to be honest wouldnt be surprised if the buyer doesnt pay as seems like ebay madness gettin carried away ,im after this but not at that price ,How much would paul foster or chc etc sell it if they had a copy at i wonder ??

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Winbert Hutahaean
Film God

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From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003

posted November 03, 2014 09:58 PM

The part one was won by l***g (819) who did not bid on the second part .

So it seems to me, the winner of Part 1 only needs for part 1 only for certain reasons (e.g his part 1 is missing or has faded, has scratches, etc).

But I can also predict that the winner of Part 2, a***g ( 0 ), has a zero feedback is not a new member per se, but somebody who takes a risk by bidding both parts where if he loose in either part, he can just runaway.

So let's see if, part 2 will be re-listed in few days to come, my prediction is correct and bad for the seller... [Wink]

This is a risk to sell multi-reels film on several different listings that seller must have thought before.

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Lee Mannering
Film God

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From: The Projection Box
Registered: Nov 2006

posted November 04, 2014 01:58 AM

Nigel, SW seems to have more of a following on 8 outside the UK hence ludicrous prices. Bide your time you will get a copy but fleabay may not be the best place to look. [Cool]

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Nigel Higgins
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Saffron walden.united kingdom
Registered: Jun 2014

posted November 04, 2014 09:55 AM

Yes lee I was thinking the same ,by the way how much is one worth realistically ?

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Winbert Hutahaean
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From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
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posted November 04, 2014 07:03 PM

quote:
by the way how much is one worth realistically ?

Nigel, the price will be vary depends on where you buy and at what condition. In Europe mainland it seems the price is cheaper than in the UK. In 2011 it was sold in Spain for €326 (£255). In the USA, it once sold for a $1000+ (£620). So I would say for today's price it will be between £450 - £750.

I myself got this title in the USA in 2012 for a very good price!

Good luck!

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