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Topic: Elmo 1.0 Lens wanted

Dimitrios Kremalis
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From: Athens - Greece
Registered: Oct 2004

posted November 05, 2004 04:11 PM

Hi everyone, looking for an 1.0 lens for my GS.
Anyone left?

Dimitri

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John Cook
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From: Papillion, NE
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posted November 06, 2004 12:55 AM

Dimitri,

If you find more than one please send me an email, I'd be interested in experimenting with one too.

Regards, John

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Dimitrios Kremalis
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From: Athens - Greece
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posted November 06, 2004 04:33 AM

Anytime John!
However I'm afraid not many are willing to sell theirs [Frown]

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Alternatively, I'd like to experiment with a 1.1 Schneider.
Used to have it on a T-610 Bauer with unsatisfactory results, but read reports that with the Elmo gate it performs much better..

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Kevin Faulkner
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posted November 06, 2004 10:25 AM

The Schneider f1.1 xenovaron is a superb lens. On all my tests it gives approx 80 lux more than the Elmo 1.1 that has been the case when checked agains four of the Elmo lenses.
It brings the Xenovaron somewhere between the Elmo 1.1 and 1.0. The other thing I like about the Schneider lenese is that they give a slightly cooler image compared to the Elmo optics which allways seem to project the image a bit more yellow in colour.
Superb image sharpness too but then I think they give a little more contrast over the Elmo's.

Kev.

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GS1200 Xenon with Elmo 1.0...great combo along with a 16-CL Xenon for that super bright white light.

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Dimitrios Kremalis
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From: Athens - Greece
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posted November 06, 2004 11:55 AM

Wow, Impressive facts! Thank you so much Kev! Does the Xenovaron need a special bayonet adaptation to fit the GS? I know of two different versions of it, one for the Bauer T-610 and the other for the Beaulieu 708 EL with different bayonet. Which one is suitable?
btw, I'm very happy to meet you all here [Big Grin]

[ November 06, 2004, 01:07 PM: Message edited by: Dimitrios Kremalis ]

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Craig Hamilton
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From: Luton
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posted November 06, 2004 11:55 AM

Wish I had a good lens... [Frown]

Craig

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Dan Lail
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posted November 06, 2004 09:52 PM

I have a 1.1 in my St-1200, would a 1.0 be noticably brighter. Kev, are saying the 1.1 schneider would be as good or better than the Elmo 1.0? [Smile]

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Kevin Faulkner
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posted November 07, 2004 12:32 PM

No the Xenovaron 1.1 is about midway between the Elmo f1.1 and f1.0. Personally I dont like the Elmo 1.o lens as the depth of focus is so critical that you spend all your time refocussing the lens during a show.
For the xenovaron lens you need to find a straight barrelled version of 28mm. Phil Sheard can sell you a sleeve that takes this lens and fits the Elmo.

Kev.

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GS1200 Xenon with Elmo 1.0...great combo along with a 16-CL Xenon for that super bright white light.

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Tony Milman
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posted November 08, 2004 01:00 AM

Kev,

Must be my eyesight but with many films I don't seem to have this problem with the 1.0 and focus. I do find the colour of the light to be "yellower" with this lens than the schneider.

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Dimitrios Kremalis
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From: Athens - Greece
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posted November 08, 2004 04:13 AM

Kev, by saying 28mm you mean the Bauer barrel n'est ce pas? Could you provide me plz with some contact details (e-mail, tel.) of Phil Sheard, as I hear this name for the first time..

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Kevin Faulkner
Film God

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posted November 09, 2004 06:08 PM

Dimitrios, yes the lens needs to have the straight (no thread etc) 28mm barrel.
You can get Phils contact details from his web site along with lots of other interesting items.

Kev.

http://valueservices.org/classichomecinema/

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GS1200 Xenon with Elmo 1.0...great combo along with a 16-CL Xenon for that super bright white light.

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Dimitrios Kremalis
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posted November 09, 2004 08:11 PM

Thank you very much! [Smile]

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Ugo Grassi
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posted December 07, 2004 01:19 PM

About the match Elmo lens Schneider:I think it's impossible to give a definitive answer.
I had in my hands more than 15 Elmo 1.1 and 5/6 Schneider 1.1.For both the lens I have to say the quality isn't costant!
I have an 1.1 Elmo wonderful! clear, sharpness, with a superb focus! and a 1.1 that... oh! similar to bottom af a glass full of grease! It's hard to think these two lens are "the same" lens!
Something of similar about the 1.1 Schneider.
So if you do the match: the best Elmo vs the worst Schneider, wins... the Elmo; if you do the contrary, wins...

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Kevin Faulkner
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posted December 13, 2004 03:51 PM

I do agree with you. But I have to say that many years ago the Widescreen centre in London were selling Schneider lenses in sleves and they said exactly the same thing. Certainly my Schneider 1.1 has come out better than all the Elmo 1.1s I have tested unless I have a very good specimen of the schneider which I hasten to add only cost me £40 off ebay because it had been listed in the wrong place (camera lenses) and didnt get any other bids.

Kev [Smile]

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