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Rob Buttrum
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From: Denton, TX USA
Registered: Jun 2008


 - posted January 08, 2010 07:15 PM      Profile for Rob Buttrum   Email Rob Buttrum   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hello all. i am new to this forum and would like some opinions on splicers. I am working on an experimental 8mm film and need to start cutting and splicing.. i have a few cheap butt splicers and i also have a decent Revere curv-a-matic cement splicer(the one that overlaps the film slightly for you when you bring the arm down).. this is the splicer i was planning on using, however i have read that tape is superior to cement. i dont feel comfortable using the cheap butt splicers because they seem cheap and the tape not strong (may be wrong), But i have heard many good things about the Ciro Guillotine style splicer. i know they are harder to find and are a little more pricey, but are they worth it? also i hear the 16mm version is easier to find and CAN be used for 8mm by folding the excess tape to the other side and re-perforate the holes again. (so should i be on the look out of a ciro 16 mm splicer (since i want to get into 16mm eventually anyway)..

so sorry for the long winded rant
but basically what i need to know is should i use what i have or search or something else and should it be tape or cement?

also is anyone aware of a ciro splicer for sale anywhere?

any help is appreciated!!

-Rob

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Chip Gelmini
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Brooksville, FL
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 - posted January 08, 2010 10:50 PM      Profile for Chip Gelmini   Email Chip Gelmini   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Rob

Welcome to the forum.

Your best bet is the Ciro 16mm. Yes you are correct on using it for 8mm exactly how you wrote it. I have one and it works fine.

Although you are working on 8mm not super 8 be advised that some newer film prints are made on mylar or polyester. Instead of acetate.

The glue splicers will only work with acetate but the tape splicers are fine for polyester.

cg

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Rob Buttrum
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 - posted January 09, 2010 12:38 AM      Profile for Rob Buttrum   Email Rob Buttrum   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hey CG! thanks for the advice

is there a way to tell if the film is poly or acetate? i am buying the film from john Schwind, its cine x asa 100 b&w reversal (processes D94A if that makes a difference).?

thanks!
-Rob

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Damien Taylor
Expert Film Handler

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From: Perth, Western Australia
Registered: Oct 2008


 - posted January 09, 2010 06:38 AM      Profile for Damien Taylor   Email Damien Taylor   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hold the reel so there is a light shining through it. Acetate appears opaque and polyester is transparent and has a pattern.

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