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Stewart McSporran
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From: Glasgow, Scotland
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- posted December 14, 2006 04:26 PM      Profile for Stewart McSporran   Email Stewart McSporran   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I've just recieved a film that I purchased off e-bay. Good price but it came on two cores, not reels. I've checked the listing and it doesn't actually specify either option. So caveat emptor.

What do I need to do to get this onto reels? I currently don't even have 16mm rewinds? If I did, how does one mount the core?

I guess going into the overpriced Glasgow based film specialists, paying over the odds for two reels then asking them nicely if they could spool the core for me is the only realistic option.

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Dan Lail
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- posted December 14, 2006 04:53 PM      Profile for Dan Lail   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Stewart, you need a split reel. A split reel can be separated and the cored film placed between them. Then you can rewind the film to a standard reel on your rojector or rewinds. Before I bought a few split reels I carefully rewound it on my projector by putting a dowell(improvise) through the core and holding it under the rewinding reel and keeping a little tension on the cored film with my fingers. [Smile]

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Stewart McSporran
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- posted December 14, 2006 05:01 PM      Profile for Stewart McSporran   Email Stewart McSporran   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Dan, thanks. I did picture trying such a move, but I also pictured 2,000 feet of film all over the floor!

I'll try and track down some split reels.

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Tony Milman
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- posted December 14, 2006 05:06 PM      Profile for Tony Milman   Author's Homepage   Email Tony Milman   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Stewart.

What I did was to get some stiff card and cut two circles. Ye syou guessed it, I then placed them either side of the core and held them together by passing a piece of wire between them. This also served as a means to support the whole. I then wound them on to another spool.

Tricky and not without the odd problem but it does work

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Stewart McSporran
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- posted December 14, 2006 05:31 PM      Profile for Stewart McSporran   Email Stewart McSporran   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Tony,

I like your idea - especially since I've just been searching and found out the cost of 2000 foot split reels.

Stewart

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Steven Sigel
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- posted December 14, 2006 05:31 PM      Profile for Steven Sigel   Email Steven Sigel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Stewart --
I have some split reels in various sizes for sale. The main problem of course is the shipping cost to the UK from the US. However, if you are interested, email me at steven (at) 16mm-films (dot) net

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Stewart McSporran
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- posted December 15, 2006 08:56 AM      Profile for Stewart McSporran   Email Stewart McSporran   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I went to the local store and the chap there kindly spooled them for me.

He only managed to snap the film once in the process when the split reel broken open on the rewinder...

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Thomas Stathes
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- posted December 16, 2006 01:41 PM      Profile for Thomas Stathes   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I receive films on cores and also sell films on cores- but without any split reels. What I do is since I deal with shorts, I merely thread the film through the projector and hold the core against the feed arm as it projects. Then I rewind it onto an empty reel.
If I want to sell a film on a core to conserve reels, I'll project it to take pictures. Put the take-up reels on a rewind and manually rewind it onto a core. A bit time consuming, but pretty much foolproof if you have nimble hands.

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Steven Sigel
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- posted December 16, 2006 03:03 PM      Profile for Steven Sigel   Email Steven Sigel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I never sell films on cores -- unless the buyer explictly asks me, or if it's a junk print I'm basically giving away. I certainly would never ship a film that someone was paying real money for on a core.

Tom -- what you are doing is very dangerous. With 400 ft shorts you might get away with it - but you're still running the risk of having film fall all over the floor.

(BTW - I have a 1200ft split reel available for $25 if you want one).

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Adrian Winchester
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- posted December 17, 2006 06:01 AM      Profile for Adrian Winchester     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
"I went to the local store and the chap there kindly spooled them for me."

Stewart - I wondered what sort of "local store" provides a service like that!

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Stewart McSporran
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- posted December 17, 2006 12:01 PM      Profile for Stewart McSporran   Email Stewart McSporran   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It's a place called 20th Century Movies in Glasgow. They've been there since the year dot.

You get good service, but, to be honest, the place is in the dark ages. I know you pay more in a shop than online, but I recently paid £11.50 for a 600' 8mm reel. They have old 8mm package movies at £45 that you can pick up on e-bay for under £10.

It's a difficult choice. I'd miss them if they were gone, but I simply can't afford to get everything I need at their prices.

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Thomas Stathes
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- posted December 19, 2006 02:11 PM      Profile for Thomas Stathes   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Steven,
I can imagine the dangers of doing so with larger prints...but honestly, 99% of what I deal with is 25' to 300' in length and I rarely ever have a problem doing this manually. I'm careful, of course. As you suggest, I tend to put the more valuable prints on [plastic] reels. Rarely sell a print on a metal reel-- call me shrewd!
Tom

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Alex Fox
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- posted December 26, 2006 01:55 PM      Profile for Alex Fox   Author's Homepage   Email Alex Fox   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi.Stewart I bought my first sound 9.5 Pathescope Son projector from 20th CENTUARy MOvIES way back in 1959, are they still at Queen Margaret Drive. Alex

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Stewart McSporran
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- posted December 26, 2006 04:59 PM      Profile for Stewart McSporran   Email Stewart McSporran   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Alex,

Yes, they are.

I bought my first package movie there back around 1980.

I've also just bought up their remaining 16mm library (50+ titles). I'll be listing them soon.

Stewart

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Alex Fox
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- posted December 27, 2006 01:14 PM      Profile for Alex Fox   Author's Homepage   Email Alex Fox   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi! Stewart Thank you for the info.,nice to see that 20th Century Movies have been able to stay in business for so long.May I take this opportunity to wish you and yours a HAPPY NEW YEAR Alex

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