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Topic: Can an emulsion line be removed by film guard :)?

Elyas Tesfaye
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Registered: Nov 2012

posted October 21, 2014 06:11 PM

Hi,

I was just wondering [Smile]

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Elyas

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Douglas Meltzer
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From: New York, NY, USA
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posted October 21, 2014 07:29 PM

Elyas,

Sorry, green scratches are forever. FilmGuard can help make black lines disappear, but there's nothing that can be done with deep emulsion scratches.

Doug

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Elyas Tesfaye
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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posted October 22, 2014 08:58 AM

Thanks, Doug,

On the same topic, would the same emulsion line on a black and white film then be just white? I noticed this really annoying thin white line on my otherwise pristine 'Miracle of the bells' print [Frown]

... Hope I'm wrong and thanks again [Smile]

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Elyas

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Harrison Bradley
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posted October 22, 2014 10:33 AM

Generally base scratches are black since they block light from the lamp while emulsion scratches are white or colored as they let light through.

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Elyas Tesfaye
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From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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posted October 22, 2014 11:01 AM

Oh man,

I was really hoping I was wrong about the black n white emulsion line [Frown]

... Thanks a ton n God Bless [Smile]

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Elyas

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Clyde Miles
Expert Film Handler

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From: Bromsgrove, UK
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posted October 22, 2014 11:24 AM

a white chinagraph pencil can turn an green emulsion scratch black.

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Elyas Tesfaye
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Registered: Nov 2012

posted October 22, 2014 12:48 PM

Interesting,

and this is the Film Guard- removable black we're talking about here?

Elyas

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Dino Everette
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From: Long Beach, CA USA
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posted November 17, 2014 12:47 AM

Elyas - NOPE....As Doug already pointed out an emulsion scratch is forever, because that is the side that contains the actual image information, once it has been scratched off there is not way to replace it...The "black" scratches on the base side are only black because the scratch is redirecting the light instead of passing straight through the image or emulsion side..The film guard fills in the scratch so the light shines straight through the emulsion side...Clyde's trick is just to make the emulsion scratch less annoying, it won't make it go away entirely.

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Elyas Tesfaye
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From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Registered: Nov 2012

posted November 17, 2014 08:34 AM

Hi Dino,

thanks a ton n hope you are have yourself a great start to the week, good sir [Smile]

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Elyas

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Elyas Tesfaye
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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posted December 08, 2014 01:59 PM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Photographic-Solutions-PEC-12-Emulsion-Cleaner-32-oz-PECQT-/390953976046?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5b06ac40ee

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Elyas Tesfaye
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From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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posted December 09, 2014 11:15 AM

Hi all,

saw this and was thinking it's probably for negatives but your more experienced thoughts?

Elyas

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Andrew Woodcock
Film God

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From: Manchester Uk
Registered: Aug 2012

posted December 09, 2014 12:38 PM

Still doesn't and cannot claim to remove emulsion scratches. There is no magic potion that can repaint the emulsion side of a print with exactly the right colours and image once a scratch has took it away.

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Elyas Tesfaye
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From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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posted December 09, 2014 12:47 PM

Thanks, Andrew, and happy holidays [Smile]

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Andrew Woodcock
Film God

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From: Manchester Uk
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posted December 09, 2014 02:40 PM

If only Christmastime was a holiday in my world Elyas. I am having to work Boxing day night for 12.5 hours till 7am! [Frown]

Fair enough if you are working in A&E at the hospitals, but papermakers... come on. The UK has gone bonkers!

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Elyas Tesfaye
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From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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posted December 09, 2014 07:26 PM

Oh no

... Sorry to hear that, Andrew, n hang in there [Smile]

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Andrew Woodcock
Film God

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posted December 10, 2014 01:13 AM

Oh don't worry I am more than used to our barmy annualised hours nowadays Elyas. Last year it was the same story for me working NYE.

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