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Janice Glesser
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 - posted September 19, 2015 09:32 PM      Profile for Janice Glesser   Email Janice Glesser   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I recently bought another Elmo 16Cl off Ebay. It was damaged when I received it. The Front Leg/Foot and Tilting Knob were broken. The good news is that the seller did send me replacement parts. The front foot is easy enough to replace by removing the bottom screw with an Allen Wrench...but the Tilting Knob attached to the Leg is another matter. From the 16CL Service Manual it appears the whole motor assembly needs to be removed to access the Tilting Leg Assy. [Frown]

I don't normally work on 16mm projectors so this seems a bit daunting. Has anyone here had any experience with this repair and can lend some advice. Is there a way to loosen the motor enough to remove the Tilting Leg without totally removing the motor?

Here's where the Front Tilting leg is located and the new part I want to install.
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Here is the motor connected to the belt pulley on the right side.
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Janice Glesser
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I'm also wondering if I do have to remove the motor...what do I have to look out for in putting it back together?

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James Romero
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 - posted October 01, 2015 08:24 PM      Profile for James Romero   Email James Romero   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Janice, I just had a tilting knob replaced on the Elmo 16CL and I can testify that yes, you definitely have to remove the entire motor assembly to install it. I didn't do it myself but had a repair tech do it for me.

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Janice Glesser
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 - posted October 01, 2015 11:13 PM      Profile for Janice Glesser   Email Janice Glesser   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks James for the reply. Yes...even though I was hoping there was an easier way...looks like there's not. Anyway...in the mean time, I wasn't looking forward to taking out the motor so I went to Plan B. As you can see in the before picture...the metal foot bar was pitted and rusted. I sanded and spray painted it and it looks like new again. Then I glued the cracked tilting wheel back on the screw with Elmer's Glue-All Max. This glue expands and make a very tight fit. I sanded away the excess glue and painted it. It's very strong and should hold up well. Looks good too [Smile]

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Barry Fritz
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Looks great Janice. If I were you, I would put a little white dot or some other indicator on the protrusion that you blued back on. That way you could likely avoid putting pressure on that one when using the adjustment. Also, because 16mm projectors are rather heavy, it makes it much easier to turn those adjusters if you take you free hand and lift the projector in the front a bit. This will take the weight off the adjustment and allow it to turn much easier.

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Janice Glesser
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Good point Barry. Yes I'll have to treat this projector a little more gingerly then my others, but I feel the glued wheel will hold up well. I'm going to try putting this machine in my permanent setup in my front room. This way it will keep from having to adjust it to a minimum.

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Janice Glesser
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Good point Barry. Yes I'll have to treat this projector a little more gingerly then my others, but I feel the glued wheel will hold up well. I'm going to try putting this machine in my permanent setup in my front room. This way it will keep having to adjust it to a minimum.

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Richard C Patchett
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Greetings Jan
The tilting knob should come off from the top
After you remove the stop pin on top
That top pin goes through the Tilting leg
Your picture don't show that (looks like its there but broken off on both sides that's one reason it will not screw off
I never had to remove the motor to replace one
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Janice Glesser
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Oh Richard...Thank so much for stumbling upon this thread. I just had a feeling that removing the motor was a bit over-kill...but then that's what the manual said needed to be done. I want to understand what you are saying about the pin in the screw.

I see the pin at the top of the screw on the replacement part and I think I can see it in the picture of the one already installed in the projector... I don't recall it being broken, but I'll have to open it up again to actually tell the condition. Richard...are you saying that that pin can be removed to allow the screw to be unscrewed from the bottom? The pin in the replacement part seems rather permanent however I haven't tried to move it. How do you usually remove the pin from the one in the projector ... and then put it back in again?

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