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Robert Blackie
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 - posted September 21, 2018 07:51 AM      Profile for Robert Blackie   Author's Homepage   Email Robert Blackie   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
yes Maurice, i see that now.
thanks rob [Smile]

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Mark Todd
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 - posted September 21, 2018 03:38 PM      Profile for Mark Todd     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Robert, you might be as well getting a nice small super 8 sound projector for some real film 8mm fun, a few trailers and digests etc.

16mm is a bit serious. Or you could slowly try both.

Also 8mm image size is less of an issue as most lenses give a far bigger picture than 16mm ones.

8mm is more about fun and faffing about etc too.

But 16mm prints are very very nice.

Theres obviously something about it gets you etc so might be an option to go for the smaller gauge for now or at some point.

I`m sure I can find you a few free super 8 bits and pieces as well once you get a machine if you do go that way.

If you can get a nice Sankyo 501 for around £50 or so you would be away with the right lens and some really good film faddling fun.

I really think its worth a bit of thought.

If you really fancy 16mm David Guest will have some very nice affordable starter films.

Best wishes Mark.

[ September 21, 2018, 05:45 PM: Message edited by: Mark Todd ]

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Robert Blackie
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 - posted September 22, 2018 06:57 AM      Profile for Robert Blackie   Author's Homepage   Email Robert Blackie   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Mark, i have a eumig for 8mm/S8 and i use that, i also use a JVC X30 for HDMI sources..
I didnt want to be limited to 8/s8 hence the 16MM ..i also have a Specto 9.5mm but i need to repair that as the gate fell apart... donnt want my 9.5 films to get wrecked , read the specto was kind to film hence buying it.

I think David Guest must be busy ATM as he has no replied to my PM as yet.
thanks for your thoughts.
Regards Rob [Smile]
update.
the PMs went into my junk folder, David does not have anything suitable ATM lens wise.

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Mark Todd
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Hi Robert sorry I thought you were new to film altogther, my mistake.

Just out of interest ( below ) for anyone else interested I found this great starter machine for £50 delivered.

You could try Ian at Perrys he usually asks around £59 ish for a B+H 25mm if he has one.

Best Mark.

https://www.ebay.co. uk/itm/Sankyo-Sound-501-Projector-Boxed-Super-8-Tested-Fully-Working-Free-Delivery/362441942926?hash=item546339278e:g:ebMAAOSw15Zbp1QD

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Paul Adsett
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 - posted September 23, 2018 11:39 PM      Profile for Paul Adsett     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
also, the thing about old cine stuff i have noticed is, on 8mm you cant really play feature films
Robert, where on earth did you get that idea? There are hundreds of full length features available on super 8mm. Just look at the 8mm print review section for just a sample of what is available.

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Robert Blackie
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 - posted September 26, 2018 07:06 PM      Profile for Robert Blackie   Author's Homepage   Email Robert Blackie   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
paul, i only buy from ebay UK not many feature film in super 8 there. not at any reasonable price at any rate.

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Mark Todd
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Super 8 prices are going nuts.

I can deal with up to around £250 but not beyond that.

There are odd lenses you can put in front of the usual B+H lens that will make the picture bigger.

I have one Kevin Clark very kindly gave me you are welcome to, to try. A bit larger than the zoom converter image would be.

Best Mark.

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Steven J Kirk
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 - posted September 28, 2018 09:05 AM      Profile for Steven J Kirk   Email Steven J Kirk   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
For B & H, just seen this one at a good price:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm /TAYLOR-HOBSON-25mm-f1-4-Hypertal-16mm-Projection-Lens-for-Bell-Howell/283151057012?hash=item41ed1e4074:g:cy8AAOSwHShblWBr

This will give you roughly 4ft by 3ft at around 10ft-11ft throw. Roughly, ( haven't done the exact maths.) The throw for any noobs is the film-gate to the screen surface.

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Maurice Leakey
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 - posted September 28, 2018 11:12 AM      Profile for Maurice Leakey   Email Maurice Leakey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
At £65 it is expensive, but this lens will certainly give a large picture as mentioned by Steven.
This was the "biggest picture/short throw" lens that was made for the Bell & Howell.
You would not regret a purchase.

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