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Author Topic: Here we go again: Star Wars for sale on eBay
Can Sanalan
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https://m.ebay.com/itm/16mm-Feature-Film-STAR-WARS-Episode-IV-A-New-Hope-UNCUT-1977-Scope-Movie/302825533086?hash=item4681ceee9e%3Ag%3AJZQAAOSwyCNbX3oB&_nkw=16mm+star+wars&_from=R4 0&rt=nc&_trksid=p2380057.m4084.l1313.TR1.TRC0.A0.H0.X16mm+star+wa.TRS0

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Brian Stearns
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looks like its SP color

kinda high for a starting bid

I guess the seller is afraid to start low

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Tom Photiou
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I think he would get that for it and more possibly if, as you say, the start price wasn't so high.

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Winbert Hutahaean
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It is on Eastman... one photo shows that code in between the sprockets.

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Tom Photiou
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Its certainly fadeing.

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Clyde Miles
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date code for that print is 1982, just missed out on being lpp.

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Steven Sigel
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It's eastman and faded - and in my opinion anyone who would pay anywhere near that much for it is not right in the head... With that said, it will probably sell - which is great for the seller but not so much for the buyer who will be left holding the bag so to speak... Eventually the prices for Star Wars prints will come back to reality. It always happens.....

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Tom Photiou
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Got to agree with you Steven, i'm currently looking at off loading faded or fading prints now, why anyone would pay that is just nuts, but, very good luck to the seller.

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Bill Brandenstein
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Points have to be given for it being 16mm and an "original" print, as sharpness and quality would be first-rate. (Or was when new before the fade wrecked the density.) But for half this price, with a little patience, you'd be able to buy a Derann print in Super 8, in LPP, with the potential for better sound than 16mm.

So no, this makes no sense. Except that it's Star Wars, and therefore it is just what it is!

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Aye there is an afa lot o' film collectors oot there jist nea richt in the heid ! Michty me min ! [Big Grin] [Roll Eyes]

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Brian Stearns
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The color doesn't look that bad being SP color vs Eastman red prints

Least it will never go vinegar

Ive got several SP color films around this time and not bothered by the orange tone.

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Can Sanalan
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Looks like it’s ended with no bids.

What I’ve noticed on eBay is that if you set an auction with a low start it entices bidding and usually once bidding has started the auction gathers momentum and in most cases ends on a high amount.
Start the auction too high, which in this case I personally think it was, then it’s very difficult to even get a starting bid.

Apart from the colour issue this looked like a good, sharp print.

If only I had the equipment and this copy I’d scan each frame, colour correct it and transfer it back onto 16mm or a blu ray disc.

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Brian Stearns
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He should have started auction as a penny. 3000 scares people away

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Can Sanalan
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Exactly!!

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Steven Sigel
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Faded prints by definition lose definition -- in otherwords, the sharpness suffers as the color goes...

Also - this print is NOT SP - you can see the edge code in the picture - it says "Eastman".

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Brian Stearns
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looks like SP by the color fade

I guess later Eastman had the same kind of fading as SP

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Can Sanalan
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Well it’s back up again.

This time Buy It Now for $3775!

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Adrian Winchester
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Wasn't it 'only' $3,000 last time? The seller must think the low price was discouraging bids!

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Brian Stearns
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someone is getting greedy

The guys trying to catch fish with a shoe

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Can Sanalan
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Yes Adrian it was.
This is obviously a sought after title, it’s Star Wars uncut and in scope, and we don’t know how much this seller bought the film for in the first place.
I can understand if they’re worried about making a loss hence the high asking price and it’s their right to ask for whatever price but like it’s been mentioned in the previous comments, the colour is fading, soon it’ll go all together.
I can’t imagine a buyer paying that much for it I don’t know.

Like I mentioned iearlier if someone has the professional equipment to scan the film, clean it up, colour correct it and either transfer it back onto 16mm or a Blu Ray disc then perfect go for it.

I think the seller is scared of making a loss or they just want to make a huge profit. Hence the high price. That’s just my opinion.

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Rob Young.
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I think it's crazy for a faded print, but if someone is willing to pay that for it, that's entirely up to them.

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David Baker
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But Can , why do all that if it's already on Blu Ray ??

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Rob Young.
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I think that Can is getting at the fact that it’s the original version as the Blu-ray version has been severely altered by Lucas.

I’ll stick with my non faded super 8 print with stereo sound.

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Can Sanalan
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David it’s like what Rob said, the current Blu Ray is essential the special edition version with pointless cgi added. Every hardcore Star Wars fan wants the original, unaltered 1977 version on Blu Ray.

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Steven Sigel
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It's not on Blu-Ray - but there's the de-specialized version out there.

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