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Chris Quinn
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 - posted January 18, 2005 06:03 PM      Profile for Chris Quinn   Email Chris Quinn   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It seems that Kev has been banned from making any future posts on this site, Is there any truth to this Brad?

Chris.

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Brad Miller
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 - posted January 18, 2005 07:19 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
This sort of thread accomplishes nothing but to lower the signal and increase the noise of the forums, but I'm going to let this stand this one time to help clear things up.

YES he has left on his own accord. YES he may return if he likes. YES the confusion needs to be cleared offline via email before he posts again. No big surprise here, nothing spectacular, sorry no fireworks.


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Douglas Meltzer
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 - posted January 18, 2005 08:49 PM      Profile for Douglas Meltzer   Email Douglas Meltzer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Excuse me....do you think we could all get past this and get back to the small bits of nitrocellulose and camphor with the little holes on the side? [Smile]

Doug

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Jan Bister
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 - posted January 18, 2005 10:57 PM      Profile for Jan Bister   Email Jan Bister   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Doug, psst.... we've moved on to acetate and polyester in the meantime [Wink] [Big Grin]

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Tony Milman
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 - posted January 19, 2005 12:55 AM      Profile for Tony Milman   Author's Homepage   Email Tony Milman   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Doug,

What titles do you have on nitro in 8 mm format?

Guy Fawkes perhaps?

Just so you know, Kev can't seem to even read the postings so I assume there is something wrong with his settings as even Brad can't stop that>

I hope Kevin and Brad can exchange emails on this, be a shame if not.

I do agree there is nothing positive to be served by continuing the thread. I suspect we shall see a few members moving over to the new s8 UK site.

My opinions are all available offline should anyone want to hear them.

this is my last post on the matter

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Douglas Meltzer
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 - posted January 19, 2005 07:01 AM      Profile for Douglas Meltzer   Email Douglas Meltzer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Gentlemen,

Lesson learned.....never take poetic license on a tech forum.....those ingredients are the definition of celluloid. [Frown]

Doug

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Ugo Grassi
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 - posted January 19, 2005 09:19 AM      Profile for Ugo Grassi   Email Ugo Grassi   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
What's up in the this forum Brad? I have an opinion and I hope you want to listen it.
Brad, in an other topic, you wrote "The bottom line is that this site is here and if you wish to use it, help yourself. If you don't want to, then don't. It's called freedom of choice. However if you do enjoy this site, please simply abide by the rules when you participate."
Well, this is right. But it's also right everybody respects forum rules: the administrator too!
Now, Brad, you remember the problem we had about the way to upload a pic in a message. I wrote to you to have an help and your answer was: "this is a your problem I cannot loose my time with every forum member to explain that's in the FAQ"
You know the end of the story: I discovered the problem, and it was in the link page: it means it was a your problem!
A guy which know the netiquette would have had write "excuse me, Ugo"
Don't forget Brad that due to your wrong link in the page I saw three times a face which said to me "piece of shit". Do you think is it an netiquette?
Brad, I don't want you say "excuse me". This is an example only. I want you understand that sometimes you also do some mistakes. It's only human.

You said "please, no teaser title". Right, but is a title with three points instead of a word a teaser title? I think no.
If you write (like you did it to an other guy) "Use your brain for a minute and think about it..." you loose your time and you obtain... nothing!
But if you say "this is an incomplete title, which makes finding the older post VERY DIFFICULT" I think: right! Well. I respect this rule because it's a right rule!
You wrote: " please simply abide by the rules when you participate (to the forum). This is not asking too much."
Right! I agree with you, but, please we like you are a little bit more polite with us.This is not asking too much.

"I still don't understand why Kevin doesn't just email me"
I think the answer is in these my words.
Brad, really, I don't want a controversy.
Now Brad you have two ways: you ban me and close this thread. Or you think there is something of true in this my opinion.
To listen the opinions which we don't like has a name: democracy

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Brad Miller
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 - posted January 19, 2005 07:58 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Personally I believe any issues should be handled off site. However for some reason a few people here from the 8mm camp really wants to air out any dirty laundry here, so fine, we'll let this thread continue longer for their benefit.

Yes you are sort-of correct on the image upload story. The instructions are indeed there as I stated, but the problem was you found a link to "click here to upload an image" that I never realized existed, and as of yet have not had the time to try and figure out a way to correct. I do also specifically remember apologizing to you for that. Someone asked just a couple of days ago about image uploading and I posted a screenshot of the correct link to use so that same confusion wouldn't happen again.

I have put out the request for moderators, but no one has signed up, so until such time I will have to continue to handle the moderating. I do think it is important for everyone to remember though that I am insanely busy and often have to race through these threads to handle the moderating. Some days I have time to sit down and read through the discussions and enjoy the 8mm hobby, but other days it's just something I have to do and I don't have the time to sit down and compose something extra nice. (It's far quicker to just say "no teaser titles - edit your post" than it is to word it otherwise.) So if there are a couple of members here who would like to take over that for me and keep things extra friendly, it's all yours. Really, I don't have the time to do this properly.

Please bear in mind that the one thing I won't do is let the site run completely un-moderated, because I've seen what happens to those. They turn into nasty places with everyone using handles so you don't really know who you are talking to, and then as people get angry about something they start registering with more handles, arguments ensue and escalate, the moderator doesn't step in (or if he does it's too late to effectively do anything) and then sooner or later (and it always happens), the forums have a terrible signal to noise ratio, meaning hardly anything worthwhile remains after dredging through all of the crap. Nobody wants that.

Still though, if anyone here has any issues or questions or opinions or suggestions, I will always take them more seriously than when someone fires off a complaint post. By posting your issues rather than emailing, remember you are just increasing the noise and lowering the overall quality of the site. Hopefully that answers your question.

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Michael De Angelis
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 - posted January 19, 2005 09:14 PM      Profile for Michael De Angelis   Email Michael De Angelis   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Brad,

This all seems trivial.
Kevin has always been a tremendous influence to the hobby.

Are we going to lose a member over something very silly?
Because it is believed that he needs to correspond to make things better,
we then will all suffer the loss? [Confused]

Michael

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Brad Miller
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 - posted January 19, 2005 11:40 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Well I guess I *thought* I typed this into the last post of mine, but apparently I did not, so the inferrence in Michael's post about is my fault.

YES Kevin may participate here if he wants to. We just bounced a couple of emails today. He probably hasn't even gotten mine yet. Give it a day or two. [Wink]

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Mike Peckham
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 - posted January 20, 2005 01:43 AM      Profile for Mike Peckham   Email Mike Peckham   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Kev/Brad

Both of you appear to be offering Olive branches, this is great news [Smile] .

Brad, thanks for your explanation of your sometimes curt replies to peoples rule violations and questions, I don't think it is the rules that we have problems with but the blunt manner in which they are sometimes enforced. Now we understand why that has happenned it makes it easier to understand.

Could I make a nomination for moderator? I would like to make a joint nomination for Kev and Ugo, both of whom are extremely valued and knowledgable members who have contributed tremendously to the forum.

It looks as though we could have a positive outcome from all this and start thinking about taking, what remains probably the best collectors forum on the net, forward. [Smile]

Mike

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Brad Miller
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 - posted January 20, 2005 02:37 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Either would probably do just fine, as would yourself. The way I see it, nominations aren't even really needed. The job isn't hard at all, it just requires someone who reads the threads (or at bare minimum "scan" the threads like I often do). Anyone who would like to moderate, just email me. With two more installs coming up this spring, I am going to get my butt kicked with any regards to spare time worse than it is now.

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Kevin Faulkner
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 - posted January 20, 2005 05:59 PM      Profile for Kevin Faulkner         Edit/Delete Post 
As you can see the issues regarding me posting and accessing the site are resolved and I think that Brad and I probably have a far better understanding of where each other is coming from.
Whats the saying about less haste etc which was probably my mistake.
I think I can understand the pressures that Brad is under running the site and still having to do a full time job as my job also tires me out so any help I can give I will gladly do.
Also I would like to thank the many people who emailed me to ask me to get in touch with Brad asap to get the mess sorted as I would be missed [Frown] Cant for the life of me understand why [Wink]
Anyway I'm back on again and I think its time I got the moderator (Brad) to close this thread and put it all behind us.

Kev [Smile]

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Brad Miller
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 - posted January 20, 2005 06:16 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Also as a general FYI, as a new procedure we will be test driving, any time a teaser subject title is seen, it will simply be edited by the moderator and something to the effect of "thread title edited for clarity" will be printed at the end of the initial post to reflect that alteration. Hopefully that will help prevent any future confusion or aggravation by the members, while still providing the organization and other various benefits as I previously noted in another thread. [Smile]

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