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Paul Adsett
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From: USA
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posted October 06, 2006 08:44 PM
Just read in a UK magazine that Vinyl records and record turntables are seeing something of a resurgance. In fact, the article says that Vinyl records still account for about 15% of the market, and sales of high end turntables and valve amplifiers are really taking off, while the opposite is true of CD'S and CD players which are now losing significant market sales.
Might the same thing happen to movie projectors and film equipment? Probably not. But it just goes to show that there are still a lot of people out there who have not totally bought into everything digital, and prefer the old technologies, be it sound or motion pictures.
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Graham Ritchie
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posted October 08, 2006 10:37 PM
Paul
I understand where you are coming from regarding the Boom,Boom, stuff the young ones like these days. Early on this year I got tired of the them sneeking into the projection room at work, and changing the CD music that plays through the cinema complex.
So, I decided to "get my own back" and bring in some of my music, Hits Of The 70s, and a John Lennons CD. Feeling quite smug with myself, and the cinemas filling up, everything was going well, until the phone rang from the downstairs supervisor.
There is something wrong with the music, he says, there is some guy telling everyone to "Play With There Ding A Ling!" it was Chuck Berrys 70s hit "My Ding A Ling" can you imagine sitting waiting for a movie to start and hearing that. ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
I quickly removed the CD much to the amusement of the downstairs staff and my embarrassment, thinking that was the end of it, wrong! ,later that day the phone again rings, there is now some guy saying the F--- word, I am told, turns out its John Lennons "Working Class Hero".
Remember the saying Egg On Your Face, well I felt a large omellete had landed on mine, it wasent my day. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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David Roberts
Master Film Handler
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From: Suffolk. England
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posted October 09, 2006 01:24 PM
i havnt posted for ages,but as my other hobby is vinyl records and valve(tube)hi-fi,couldnt resist making a contribution.
there is a vinyl revival thats been going a few years now.im told that very expensive turntables are being made and are selling well,and people are spending around £25 on a single audiophile LP.
top end phono cartridges are available that cost several thousand pounds,these are nearly all made in japan,interestinly enough.
the reason for all this,in spite of the inconvenince and the odd bit of crackle,(far less than you might think)vinyl LP sound far nicer than CD. just as film is far nicer to watch than DVD.
in its hayday,the LP record got a bad name because most peaple played them on really crap turntables,so was born the myth CD was better.
i use film and vinyl for the same reason,their superiority to the alternatives.
regards,and a big hello to kev.
david
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Paul Adsett
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posted October 25, 2006 10:01 AM
Graham's album cover of 'South Pacific' raises a question. Was this film ever released on S8? I know Derann released several R&H musicals including 'The King and I, 'Carousel', and 'The Sound of Music', but I have never seen 'South Pacific' or, for that matter, 'Oklahoma' on S8. Anyone know why?
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Paul Adsett
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posted November 11, 2006 02:37 PM
Hi Mike,
Thank's for the link, I listened to the program, and as you say, the parallell with cine( "tactile feel of records and record players"), is very apparent. One reason why DVD will never replace cine for people like us, despite what some people in the DVD camp would have think.
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Claus Harding
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posted December 01, 2006 09:18 PM
A very good discussion....
I still have my 500 or so LPs and my Luxman turntable I bought in 1977, and they still sound marvelous.
As someone who is a home musician as well, I have seen innumerable threads from studio engineers bemoaning the lack of both creative and technical quality on today's CDs. The lack of talent plus the obsession with CD loudness for radio is killing the very notion of Hi-Fi.
That, plus the exorbitant pricing, is what is driving nails in the coffin for the 'conventional' music companies and dealers, and speeding the download business. The latter, however, won't improve the music.
As far as what formats are 'dead' and which aren't. I increasingly view such statements as some variant of "The Emperor's New Clothes": if enough people hear enough people say something is outdated, they will take it on good faith, as opposed to fact. But when you look 'under the radar' you see a different truth.
How else to explain companies spending money on mastering and pressing gear in the year 2006 to sell old-fashioned 'records' if not for demand in some form, and for a reason? In the grand scheme of things, most folks out there still don't even know this is done.
Another case in point: reel-to-reel, as Kevin mentioned. I use a Studer reel-to-reel 2-track. I also have a 24-track digital 'box' which will do every trick in the book, but the tape blows it away for pure fidelity every time. Outdated? To most people, yes. Not to the companies who are now producing brand-new reel-to-reel tape again....and so it goes.
I wonder if any of this is some sort of unconsicous backlash against the ever-faster change in technologies, or just a few blips on the radar? The folks who have VCRs are (at least officially) now a couple of generations behind, and they probably still can't set the clock, but they might just be happy enough with their VHS tapes that they don't care to know about digital hard drive recorders.
And then of course there are those film buffs...
Claus Harding.
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