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Topic: NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN Oh yes Mr Bond!
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Rob Young.
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1633
From: Cheshire, U.K.
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted February 07, 2013 05:32 PM
youtube;
33 seconds to 40 seconds.
The rest is just crap set-up with equally rubbish blue screen.
So, was that a real horse?
Vic Armstrong? One of the best in the business?
Looks like a 20ft drop maybe?
Lee, can you reference that book for us?
Can't believe a bloke like Vic Armstrong would seriously endanger a horse, but still, it looks...interesting.
Ah, well, these day, it would all be CGI.
Oh, and Hugh, "Creatures Being Harmed For Entertainment"...wasn't that the tag for Big Brother.
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Claus Harding
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From: Washington DC
Registered: Oct 2006
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posted February 08, 2013 12:52 PM
That was the "flying "W" technique used in so many films, horrible stuff: Loose ropes between the two front legs and between the rear legs, then a single rope in the middle tied to the other two and going back to a wooden post.
You measured out the trip rope from post to camera so it would tighten "in shot", then set the horse going full speed until the rope yanked all four legs out, resulting in the horse crashing down, usually on its neck...
It's easy to see when it's a humane takedown, because the stunt rider pulls the reins of the horse, turning its head, and the horse knows, from long training, to drop itself sideways to the ground safely.
What still amazes me is how long the "W" was allowed to be used.
Claus.
-------------------- "Why are there shots of deserts in a scene that's supposed to take place in Belgium during the winter?" (Review of 'Battle of the Bulge'.)
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Osi Osgood
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted February 08, 2013 01:45 PM
Which silent film was it that a bunch of people were drowned during a flood sequence? I forget which film it was. (sorry about getting off track, OK, back on track now ...)
I was surprised, upon watching "Never Say Never Again", to see that Rowan Atkinson, Mr. Bean himself was in that film! You tend to associate him with the 90's and beyond, but there he was as the agent in contact with Mr. Bond while in the "field"!
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Hugh Thompson Scott
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From: Gt. Clifton,Cumbria,England
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 08, 2013 02:05 PM
The film you're referring to Osi, was "Noah's Ark",where huge tanks of water were loosed upon the unwary stuntmen, at least three were killed, and many more injured.In the original "Ben- Hur", the Italian extras handed in their clothes and were given the costumes, togas etc for the epic sea battle being filmed by the second unit.Unfortunately one of the ships sank, the unit manager fearing that this would not go down well, had the extras clothes burned,thinking that they had all drowned.Fortunately the men had swam to a nearby island and were rescued by a tramp steamer. On learning what had happened, the men understandably were not pleased and MGM had to pay for their silence.So obviously the studios were not that concerned with human life, let alone animals.
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