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Maurice Leakey
Film God

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From: Bristol. United Kingdom
Registered: Oct 2007


 - posted November 25, 2013 05:59 AM      Profile for Maurice Leakey   Email Maurice Leakey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I had trouble with my Internet connection recently and used its helpline. The assistant asked if she could take over my computer to see exactly what the problem was.

Three times during the telephone conversation she asked if I would like her to download Google Chrome, twice I said no, but at the third time I said that as I had a computer operating on Microsoft I was using their supplied Internet Explorer. I asked if Google Chrome could offer anything better.

She declined to give an answer, so I said I would not accept the offer.

Do many members use Google Chrome? Is it any better than Internet Explorer? I read that it somehow sends data to Google of a user's activities. Would I be wise to change, or stay with Internet Explorer?

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Paul Mason
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Aldershot, Hampshire, UK
Registered: Nov 2013


 - posted November 25, 2013 07:13 AM      Profile for Paul Mason     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Maurice, I use Mozilla Firefox as my browser and have had no problems for the 4 years I have used it. I don't like the way Google push Chrome aggressively, however you may be able to change its settings to allow some privacy.

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Winbert Hutahaean
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From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
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 - posted November 25, 2013 07:32 AM      Profile for Winbert Hutahaean   Email Winbert Hutahaean   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
This is about marketing and monopoly strategy.

Like it or not google has become the king.

If you use google service a lot such as google search, image, map or documents eventually you need to instal Chrome.

Google can modify anything in those services that let other browsers do not have compatibility with them.

For example long time ago, when we open google search on Mozilla, we did not any problem to open the cache (i.e previous version of a website that is stored on google server).

Now we cannot do that on mozilla and only Chrome can do it.

The cache is very important if you want to see a website that has been closed or modified. Or in a case when the website's server is down we can still read the articles through cache from google's server.

More from that if we are working on google documents some features are not compatible in other browsers.

So you see it now. I have to install Chrome eventually!

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Martin Jones
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Thetford , Norfolk,England
Registered: May 2008


 - posted November 25, 2013 07:34 AM      Profile for Martin Jones   Email Martin Jones   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Maurice,
I concur with Paul. I find Mozilla Firefox brilliant after failing to get on with IE. Very intuitive, flexible and easily customized.
I tried Google Chrome... and hated it from the word "Go"!'
Martin

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David Ollerearnshaw
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From: Penistone Sheffield UK
Registered: Oct 2012


 - posted November 25, 2013 08:21 AM      Profile for David Ollerearnshaw   Author's Homepage   Email David Ollerearnshaw   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Google! Do more Evil and steal Wifi information.

Just checked my browser (Firefox 25.0.1) and I can still see the cached pages. I would think if Google started down that road they would find the EU on their back.

I use all three

Firefox most of the time followed by Explorer only for a couple of sites it has improved of late, and Chrome as little as I can. If they have to push something that much I don't want it. Like the pre ticked box which you can miss sometimes.

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Maurice Leakey
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From: Bristol. United Kingdom
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 - posted November 25, 2013 10:17 AM      Profile for Maurice Leakey   Email Maurice Leakey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks for the comments, folks.
I read......"one site that doesn't work with Firefox is Microsoft Windows Update".
Is this true?

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David Ollerearnshaw
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Penistone Sheffield UK
Registered: Oct 2012


 - posted November 25, 2013 11:49 AM      Profile for David Ollerearnshaw   Author's Homepage   Email David Ollerearnshaw   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yes I'm sure you can only use IE. I don't think you can remove it anyway.

Chrome seems to use loads of memory too.

If they can get any useful data from my browsing good luck to them. I just click on random links and put silly searches in, childish I know, but fun.

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Brian Stearns
Master Film Handler

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From: Lexington
Registered: Jun 2013


 - posted November 25, 2013 04:43 PM      Profile for Brian Stearns         Edit/Delete Post 
I hate IE explorer too bloated

I use opera browser and love it

the others are ok but Ive encounter problems with video loading and other problems

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Lee Mannering
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From: The Projection Box
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 - posted November 26, 2013 12:52 AM      Profile for Lee Mannering     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Chrome has proven to be unstable so if you are half way through booking your train tickets as it goes wonky you may find yourself in a spot.

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Winbert Hutahaean
Film God

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From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003


 - posted November 27, 2013 08:04 PM      Profile for Winbert Hutahaean   Email Winbert Hutahaean   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Just checked my browser (Firefox 25.0.1) and I can still see the cached pages.
May be firefox has fixed the problem.

I found this problem before and it was also mentioned on Mozilla forum:

I cannot get google cache search to function in Firefox

Google cache is gone

In other words, if Google wants to give more works to Mozilla, it can easily change again the codes and Mozilla users will again face the same problem.

quote:
I would think if Google started down that road they would find the EU on their back.

I don't think EU can do something about this. It is different case with IE bundled on Windows OS which EU fined Microsoft. In this case, people buy Windows OS and Microsoft pushed buyers to use IE browse, another product from Microsoft.

It seems that IE was given for free but no such a free lunch today. The bundled price contained the cost for IE to be there.

(ps: we remember the case of Kodak that was not allowed to bundle the processing fee on its film price. But that rule only applied in the USA not in other part of the world)

But on Google cache here, it is similar to a car manufacture (e.g) "Mercedes" who decides to have 7 bolts on every rim cover, while other car manufactures has only 4 or 6 bolts. This make all rim covers from "Mercedes" cannot be used by the other car manufactures.

I don't thing the other car manufactures can submit a complain to EU for this incompatibility so Mercedes has to change the number of bolts used.

Either the other manufacturers change their bolts or used their own.

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