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Andrew Woodcock
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From: Manchester Uk
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posted February 18, 2015 06:04 PM
I get where you are coming from Mark, but this poor chap (not implied in monetary terms) is simply selling a collection he stumbled across by unfortunate circumstances.
You simply cannot blame an honest, decent seller who put these on an auction site with a sensible reserve and without any means of even checking them first, for the eventual price that these fetch.
If we are to be annoyed at anyone, then perhaps we should contact the buyers of these prints at the prices they paid for unverified prints.
I know dealers that come under the same level of criticism for selling their goods this way, but to me, how can you possibly have a go at anyone doing things the honest way when the reserve prices are sensible ones?
I simply say good luck to anyone who can get fantastic money for once treasured and well looked after prints. It's what we all want and as such there is a premium price to pay when competing for 20 or 30 year old goods of value being kept in this condition.
I would love this print.. I can't afford it, but I won't lose any sleep over the fact as I am always more than happy with what I already have.
If you are introducing people to the hobby, I get that this sort of activity would be somewhat off putting, but I don't believe it causes the hobby any harm, if anything it just values it higher than we all do.
Perhaps if anything, it teaches us all the value of buying the right equipment to show these on and the value of looking after all what we have to our very best ability.
Instead of owning an "Alfie" 70's painting on our living room wall, maybe we are all sat on a "Mona Lisa" original at this rate.
Well that might be stretching the truth somewhat but you get what I mean.
[ February 19, 2015, 03:39 AM: Message edited by: Andrew Woodcock ]
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Andrew Woodcock
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posted February 18, 2015 06:44 PM
You're absolutely correct Mark and I spoke with one such individual earlier today.
What can I say... they're suddenly becoming a very very treasured commodity are the later Derann prints. I was told many times over throughout the passing years that sale prices had peaked and it really was time to move them on and get in today's world.
Then you see a wonderful set of luscious screen shots like what Vidar posts regularly, and before you know it.. this is where we are.
I have a 19yr old stepson still living at home that thinks nothing of blowing £800 a month on clubbing, beer, fags (cigarettes for all our American forum posters ha ha) and women so in that context, I suppose to the mature, studious, quiet type of youngster, this is still affordable if it is what you value, even if it is at the utter dismay to all of his/her mates! (Buddies USA)
As for supporting Derann more in the time they were still trading
I have said before that in my opinion, just when things were really getting exciting on Super 8, e.g. Silence Of The Lambs within weeks of watching the FILM (because it was then) at the cinema, they simply released far too many in a short space of time for what was affordable by the average person at the time. That is why it is these prints above all others that are commanding the big bucks now.
So many of us, myself included, wanted the whole set in 93, now we have to pay handsomely for what we missed out on.
Things would have been very different I very much suspect if Derek had have lived till 80+, but he didnt .. so this is the situation we are all now left with sadly
[ February 18, 2015, 08:14 PM: Message edited by: Andrew Woodcock ]
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Paul Browning
Phenomenal Film Handler
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posted February 19, 2015 12:37 PM
Yes Andrew, I have the empire strikes back, first run print, but its mute at the moment and has a full length scratch along the edge of the print, although it is the extreme edge. The print looked very good to me other than this damage, with good sharpness and contrast. It was the subject of great interest at the time on the forum, and knowing the sellers past history with prints, it was a no brainer for me. This doesn't come up very often, and at least I can enjoy the print, without the worry of how much it cost.
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Paul Browning
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posted February 19, 2015 02:13 PM
Yes mate, over £250.00 per reel OMG. The person was still bidding 5 mins from the end too, is this the most ever paid for star wars, I bet it is, wow what a final price. I have poltergeist on red fox, flat print, got that from Derann for £120.00 that was a bargain, beautiful low fade print, and I have the 600ft version of the fog, from ian at perrys, but the full feature of that went for £700 on ebay, and I'm sure that was perrys too. I bid on the fog feature but didn't win it, I'm not that disappointed really, I didn't get the story line, perhaps the 600ft doesn't do it justice, I suppose you loose the suspense of the feature length film. I guess the winner will need the "force" to get into his piggy bank LOL.
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